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Theodoric Member  Posts: 5927 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.2 |
quote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_A._Muller Charles Johnson is not really known for being up on the latest or accurate for that matter. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Omnivorous Member (Idle past 1015 days)  Posts: 3808 From: Adirondackia Joined:
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____________________________________________________________________________________________ "If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads." Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
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Rrhain Member  Posts: 6349 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined:
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Both Judaism and Christianity deny equality for all, especially for women. Very few philosophies manage to live up to the concept of equality in general and equality of the sexes in particular. This is naught but Islamophobia. Rrhain Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time. Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.
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Jon Inactive Member |
Not for reading what Greatest I am might have to say on the issue, but for the sake of having a discussion about the treatment of people within various religious cultures. That some might consider such discussion 'Islamophobic' is really no reason to suppress it. Edited by Jon, : No reason given. Love your enemies!
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Admin Director  Posts: 12578 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 4.6
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But what does GIA's topic have to do with the creation/evolution debate? Seems like GIA could have just dumped it into Coffee House.
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Omnivorous Member (Idle past 1015 days) Posts: 3808 From: Adirondackia Joined:
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I have no desire to suppress any discussions. In fact, the topic GIA proposes in his new thread was already under discussion in his existing thread: the two threads are mirror images, halves of GIA's dilemma: "Should countries outlaw the hijab, niqab and burka?" or "Should the rest of the world adopt Islam's view of the inequality of women?" GIA's advocacy of the former led quite naturally to discussion of the latter. Unfortunately (for both GIA's case and the discussion), GIA made demonstrably counterfactual claims and then refused to defend them. Consequently, the thread became a joke field: for the failed discussion, read up to the pajamas; for the jokes, start with the pajamas. Darn good jokes, too. So now GIA wishes to shake off the dust of that behavior--a refusal to support the unsupportable, i.e., the untrue--in favor of a thread which contains neither examples of GIA's willingness to misrepresent the facts, nor GIA's refusal either to defend them or acknowledge them as untrue. Sure, GIA could turn to the Coffee House. Fine. But I thought the topic promotion process was intended for something more serious than sweeping the proposer's ongoing catastrophic failure to debate honestly on the same topic under the rug. GIA should engage the challenges already made to the counterfactual claims, and then, if possible, make the case at hand. Letting GIA step from 'Should we let them beat their wives?' to 'Should we all beat our wives?' is absurd enough. Doing so when the active thread displays an embarrassingly cavalier disregard for the facts rewards dishonest debate. "If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads." Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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Dr Adequate Member  Posts: 16083 Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Admin Director Posts: 12578 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 4.6 |
Only after posting my reply to the first message did I glance at the second. This is beyond my current available time to review and understand. If you can get a second in favor of your motion to promote as is then I will do so.
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RAZD Member  Posts: 19732 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16083 Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Also, why not promote forexhr's thread? Yeah, his OP is very long. But I could condense the answer into three sentences, or two if I leave off "So fuck you, you pretentious monkey-loving jizz-spoon". I'll leave that off, shall I? OK. I'll be nice. ETA: I'm talking here about his topic proposal "Proof that evolution can build things by random chance alone". His other topic proposal is even stupider and easier, but let's do this one at a time. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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RAZD Member Posts: 19732 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
It would be interesting to see how fast he folds.
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Tanypteryx Member  Posts: 1962 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 7.2
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It is pretty funny to see this guy dive right in with a smug, zealous, authoritative manner and expecting to be taken seriously with dozens of spelling, grammar, and word usage errors. English must not be his 1st language. What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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caffeine Member  Posts: 1593 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Reading the sections I have looked through gives you a good idea at least of Nahmanides' worldview, and allows you to judge pretty clearly whether his cosmology accords with modern science (I'll give you only one guess).
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16083 Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
How about Archangel's "Why did animals have to die in the great flood?" topic, then?
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