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Tanypteryx
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Message 511 of 517 (907187)
02-19-2023 4:21 PM


Mike the Wiz proposes another piece of crap topic
I see mike the Wiz has proposed another attack on science and probability that he will abandon when It becomes clear (immediately) that everything he proposes is based on invalid reasoning.
Please let this one fester on the rubbish heap where it belongs.

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What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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AZPaul3
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Message 512 of 517 (913532)
11-10-2023 6:53 PM


A Creationism Sandbox for candle2
From Dwise1 Message 1 A Creationism Sandbox for candle2
Percy writes:
I understand and sympathize with what you're trying to do ...
I don’t. Why build a temple from which this priest will proselytize, lie and poison the minds of others? Why give him his own minaret from which to call the adhan. Let him dwell with the common masses in and among the common threads. Giving this poisonous viper his own dedicated sandbox is lending unwarranted credence to his lies and fantasies. I would prefer not to highlight this candle2 crap with such central attention.

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Message 513 of 517 (913533)
11-10-2023 6:55 PM


A Creationism Sandbox for candle2
Everything is better when duplicated. The first post was from a gateway timeout.

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Message 514 of 517 (913534)
11-10-2023 7:52 PM
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11-10-2023 6:53 PM


Re: A Creationism Sandbox for candle2
Giving this poisonous viper his own dedicated sandbox is lending unwarranted credence to his lies and fantasies.
It's not for that purpose, but rather to move his nonsense away from polluting other topics. And to have a place to expose his nonsense for what it is, just as is already happening in those other poor suffering topics.
Why build a temple from which this priest will proselytize, lie and poison the minds of others?
Not a temple, but rather a courtroom in which we can pursue the truth through discussion and cross-examination.
Yes, he will copycat his god, Trump, who tried to use taking the stand in his fraud trial as a political rally, which the judge shut down immediately. He won't be in that proposed topic to preach (though he will try), but rather to answer the questions.
And when he yet again refuses to answer any questions (equivalent to taking the Fifth in a civil trial), then in our judgement we will take all the negative inferences we can to his misconduct.
And besides, isn't the founding purpose of this forum to discuss "evolution versus creation" (a contrived creationist "conflict" since there is no inherent conflict between evolution and Creation)?
Leaving for duty now.

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Message 515 of 517 (913535)
11-11-2023 7:28 AM
Reply to: Message 514 by dwise1
11-10-2023 7:52 PM


Re: A Creationism Sandbox for candle2
There is the fact that exposure of evil is good. Helps to fight the plague. And, truthfully, watching you play with him like a cat with a squeaky mouse can be entertaining.
But still, I chafe at giving air to his delusive miasma in such a dedicated highlighting way. His are the faulty fictitious thought processes that poison human society and should be extinguished from human consciousness not highlighted in his own thread.

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Message 516 of 517 (913538)
11-11-2023 7:49 AM
Reply to: Message 515 by AZPaul3
11-11-2023 7:28 AM


Re: A Creationism Sandbox for candle2
I'm just continuing the discussion chain, not actually responding to your message.
I don't think censorship is the right approach. If candle2 is wrong then words should be able to make that clear.
But the impression I'm getting from what's been said here is that candle2 is not that interested in a back and forth discussion, instead mostly ignoring what people say while repeating his message. Am I close? If so then my only comment is that moderation has been largely unsuccessful. Nagging from moderators and temporary suspensions have never been very successful at influencing behavior. The new post limit feature can't really be considered successful because members who received post limits ceased participation.
All I can suggest is to continue to engage with candle2 because better ideas and arguments tend to win out.

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AZPaul3
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Message 517 of 517 (913540)
11-11-2023 8:23 AM
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11-11-2023 7:49 AM


Re: A Creationism Sandbox for candle2
I don't think censorship is the right approach.
All I can suggest is to continue to engage with candle2 because better ideas and arguments tend to win out.
Good god I didn't mean to leave that faulty impression.
I don't want to shut him up but I don't want to give him his own shiney new topic tower to spew his dementia from either.
Let him speak to his heart's content in the usual common threads, not through his own named edifice like his voice is something special to be given credence.
He has a soapbox. He doesn't need a neon sign.
But the impression I'm getting from what's been said here is that candle2 is not that interested in a back and forth discussion, instead mostly ignoring what people say while repeating his message.
He is not here for discussion. He is a priest of his cult and is here to proselytize. Gives us something else to read. But, I object to building him his own special church within this forum.
Sorry, dwise1. I think Admin should not promote this.

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