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Author Topic:   Trilobites, Mountains and Marine Deposits - Evidence of a flood?
Pressie
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Message 438 of 519 (812146)
06-15-2017 4:23 AM
Reply to: Message 432 by Faith
06-15-2017 12:10 AM


Re: where the sediments came from
Faith writes:

If you take a handful of dirt, say out of a garden where there may be a mixture of sand and clay and silt and soil and other things, and stir it into a jar of water won't it separate into sediments,...

Nope. The material settle to form one single 'layer' grading from the coursest and heaviest material at the bottom to the smallest and lighter material at the top. Separate layers don't form at all.

Faith writes:

... and isn't that a rough model for what I'm describing?

Nope.

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Pressie
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Message 440 of 519 (812156)
06-15-2017 6:26 AM
Reply to: Message 436 by Faith
06-15-2017 3:53 AM


Re: just the usual
This one was funny.

Faith writes:

You can't see into the past either...

I sure can. Every time I look at the sun I can see what happend there around 8 minutes ago...Eight minutes ago counts as the past, right?

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Pressie
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Message 482 of 519 (812658)
06-19-2017 8:45 AM
Reply to: Message 481 by RAZD
06-17-2017 11:58 AM


Re: The TRVE history of the Flood... Message 1090 copied here
RAZD, after all of this; YEC's are convinced that the existence of Prokaryote fossils from 3.8 billion years ago somehow refutes ToE. Not too sure why they think this.

You really are wasting your time showing reality to them.

However, other people learn a lot from your posts. I've basically learned all of my biology and paleontology and genetics and and and from people of your "kind". Please keep up the good work.

Edited by Pressie, : Spelling mistake. Changed "However, other people learn a lot from you posts." to "However, other people learn a lot from your posts."


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Pressie
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Message 486 of 519 (812758)
06-20-2017 5:47 AM
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06-19-2017 11:09 PM


Re: And then there are the Horseshoe Crabs.
Faith writes:

Of course "floods" don't do either of those things, what a silly straw man. But THE Flood built sedimentary strata which was full of dead things which became fossils,....

And magically ensured that the coarsest and heaviest material don't end up at the bottom. According to you gravity didn't work. Sure, Faith. Magic.

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Pressie
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Message 488 of 519 (812761)
06-20-2017 5:59 AM
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06-19-2017 11:09 PM


Re: And then there are the Horseshoe Crabs.
This one is always funny to me.

Faith writes:

And I guess I'd think of them as I think of the other "living fossils" as evidence against the ToE because the changes they show are just variations within the Kind over hundreds of millions of years.

I'm not too sure why you think that the existence of living organisms such as Prokaryotes (also living fossils) today somehow is contrary to the TOE. Could you explain why you think it's evidence against "the ToE"?

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Pressie
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Message 490 of 519 (812763)
06-20-2017 6:13 AM
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06-20-2017 5:56 AM


Re: And then there are the Horseshoe Crabs.
Faith. Fill up a flask with water. Add clays and gravels and plant material and whatever. Shake it all up. Put it on a shelf.

The coarsest and heaviest material always settle on the bottom first. The lighter and finest material always settle at the top. In one layer. Grading from coarsest and heaviest at the bottom to the finest and heaviest material settling at the top. The "layer" you get grades from the coarsest and heaviest at the bottom to the finest and lightest at the top...

It really is easy. Anyone can do it. We did it in a physical science class when I was 10 years old. The teacher tried to explain how gravity works.

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Pressie
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Message 492 of 519 (812765)
06-20-2017 6:21 AM
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06-20-2017 6:11 AM


Re: And then there are the Horseshoe Crabs.
I'm still trying to figure out why you think the existence of living trilobites, coelecanths, horseshoe crabs and Prokaryotes somehow refutes "the ToE".

I still don't get your reasoning.

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Pressie
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Message 494 of 519 (812767)
06-20-2017 6:26 AM
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06-20-2017 6:23 AM


Re: And then there are the Horseshoe Crabs.
I really, really don't get your reasoning. Care to try and explain again?

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Message 500 of 519 (813089)
06-23-2017 5:28 AM
Reply to: Message 499 by edge
06-22-2017 10:47 PM


Great diagram, edge. It explains Walther's Law perfectly.

I think you made one mistake though. The blue trilobite zone is older than the red trilobite zone. That's what the captions in the diagram show.

In my own country the Ecca Group of the Karoo Sequence is older in the north and east than in the south and west.

But, trying to explain to Faith that the concepts of Cambrian or Permian mean periods, not layers, is impossible. One of his/her heroes told untruths to him/her and he/she will always believe it.


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Pressie
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Message 518 of 519 (813408)
06-27-2017 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 517 by RAZD
06-27-2017 5:37 AM


RAZD, Faith is convinced that the Devonian is a rock layer. You might as well try to have a rational conversation with a wall.

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