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Author Topic:   Trilobites, Mountains and Marine Deposits - Evidence of a flood?
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Message 334 of 519 (811634)
06-10-2017 2:44 AM


It's worth pointing out that the YEC timescale is less than half they claim they have. If mountains were still forming, continents shifting and animals changing and migrating at startling rates at the times that we have written historical records from - at least 485 BC for people like Herodotus, the 'father of history' - someone would have written about it.
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Message 337 of 519 (811638)
06-10-2017 3:08 AM
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Ah ok, so long as you've worked it out.....

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Message 338 of 519 (811639)
06-10-2017 3:20 AM
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06-10-2017 2:59 AM


Faith writes:
During the first weeks you could have stood on the western edge of Europe and watched the Americas sail away a few feet per day, but there was nobody there at the time to see it. Probably too much volcanism there at the time anyway.
I don't see any of this global terraforming in the Noah bible story - am I reading a different book?
I think it's been pointed out that continents moving and mountains forming at those kind of rates would have created enough heat to boil the oceans dry and burn everything on land to a cinder on it. But I expect you've found a way around that too.

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Message 341 of 519 (811642)
06-10-2017 6:27 AM
Reply to: Message 340 by RAZD
06-10-2017 5:37 AM


Re: Mainstream geologic theory put into hyperdrive
RAZD writes:
magic carpet flood waters in another, that lift up and transport whole marine ecosystems so gently they don't break fan corals or the stems of brachiopods
Whilst simultaneously moving entire continents thousands of miles in a couple of hundred years, raising mountains and creating global volcanic disturbances but somehow keeping every 'kind' alive, thriving, travelling, breeding and evolving and - in a so far unimagined way - reseeding the world
Truly miraculous. Praise be!

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Message 358 of 519 (811765)
06-12-2017 3:26 AM
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06-11-2017 9:10 PM


Re: Time Scale is Disproved, Flood is Well Supported, Summary Statement
Siccart Point is several hundred miles North East of that section, to the right of Edinburgh (topish right). The 'white cliffs' are about 70 miles South of London on the bottom right hand side.
It's an odd section of the UK to a Brit's eyes as it's a diagonal drawn through the bottom of England and Wales - missing almost all of the country. Draw a line from London (bottom right) to Wales (slightly higher up on the left) and you've got it.
But maybe there's a geoligical reason for it. But like Faith I haven't a clue about geology.

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Message 383 of 519 (811847)
06-12-2017 5:51 PM
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06-12-2017 5:24 PM


Re: Time Scale is Disproved, Flood is Well Supported, Summary Statement
Faith writes:
Concerning Siccar Point....
I know for sure that you've never been to Siccar Point. I'd put a bet on you never being to Scotland. I'm considering the odds of you not even having a passport.
I wonder, have you been to the Grand Canyon?

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Message 389 of 519 (811880)
06-13-2017 5:50 AM
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06-12-2017 6:03 PM


Re: Time Scale is Disproved, Flood is Well Supported, Summary Statement
Faith writes:
If I hung out at Siccar Point or the Grand Canyon for a year you wouldn't take anything I said any more seriously anyway, as well I know from the way creationists are treated who have spent lots of time at those sites.
You have no qualifications in any of the subjects you pontificate on and in geology you've never looked at the rocks you're talking about or been to the places they lie in. Yet you tell that that have the learning and have seen the rock that they're wrong.
You're a parochial, armchair commentator making stuff up as it suits you. Had you done any of these things, you WOULD have more credibility. But then you'd also know that what you're taking about is wrong.

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"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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