Thread Reopen Requests

Mike darlin',
I'll let the other three make a decision on this. As it is, I see no reason yet to change my mind.------------------
AdminAsgara
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I want to thank Rand and Rei for their attempts to smooth over WT's excessive and unwarranted anger.The thread has been closed again for now (a pity, because I found it quite interesting in my non-Admin mode)Moose and Percy, of course, will do as their conscience dictates, but as for me, I will not open it again until WT directly asks and assures me that the invectives will stop.------------------
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Buz is this the thread you are looking for? We have had some problems and I created an issue earlier by trying to respond to your first question concerning this thread....let's hope I don't do any damage this time Earthquakes And End Time Biblical Prophecy/crossing fingers AND toes.....submit

umliak,The entire last page of the thread was nothing but "he said, she said" accusations and insults. I will open it today, but I want ALL parties to start over. If this can't be done, than the thread will be closed for a longer cooling off period.Mike is correct in that he is generally a very polite poster but he is letting his frustration get the better of his mood. That is no excuse.Umliak needs to realize that this is a debate forum and issues will be hotly debated from both sides. Requests for further information need to be answered. If someone does not see information as being pertinent or helpful that needs to be addressed also. This is debate...a give and take of questions, answers, and opinions. Please handle it politely.

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Hi Faith and Kermie,I think the discussion going on here is very important, but unfortunately this isn't really the thread for discussion. As the name implies this is the spot to post requests on reopening threads. I would love to see this discussion taken to the Is It Science forum.Faith, I do understand your reluctance to take on yet another thread when you have been holding your ground against numerous opponents in the geology forum. I'm not sure what the Moose was planning when he gave that thread a break so you could catch up, but I think we could move that entire thread to the GD forum now and let you catch your breath and answer some of the outstanding posts.As you read thru the posts maybe you could keep track of the members that you would like to debate. We have many talented professional and amateur geologists on this board...at least one that seems to be able to type with all four hooves.

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}======={____{________}--------- Obviously someone who needs their meds.AdminMoose had the last post, with a subtitle of "Topic closed pending re-evaluation." I would think a simple reminder would have gone a lot further towards your goal than this.

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We won't be rehashing the arguments here.As far as I'm concerned the thread can remain closed.

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Razd,Unless another admin takes charge of this before I get to it. Can you give me until tomorrow evening to look into this?I understand your issues and Arach's also, but I haven't had the time lately to pay attention to these threads. I want to read through some of them before jumping in.

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Contra was suspended at the same time you were.
Message 65As far as I can see no one member can be chastised alone. All parties to the threads are guilty of one or more forum violations. If any one of the parties want another one suspended for violations, I would have to suspend all major parties. This was done previously and nothing came of it. (see above link)My STRONG suggestion to all involved parties is to drop it totally. If the other admins are in situations like mine, we can't all read all the threads all the time. Sometimes we need road signs to follow to offending posts.When a poster is in violation and no admin seems to be around, PLEASE leave a message for us to look at a particular thread or post. When it is left to go one for several pages of back and forth taunting it has progressed too far.

​ When offended parties resort to offense themselves then it becomes hard to pass out suspensions without holding all participants guilty.

I am going to do nothing at this time. Any of the participants who want to continue taunting the others on the subject will be suspended. All relevant threads will be closed and the only discussion of the issue will be done here with admin staff.This message has been edited by AdminAsgara, 04-25-2005 02:31 PM

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If I had been called in when you first had a complaint I could have done something. As it stands this was brought to my attention after you yourself were just as guilty of guideline violations. You want Contra suspended for his violations but it will get you suspended again also. You want Contra called on a lack of substantiation then let us know when it is happening.It seems to me that the only action you would deem as justice would be Contra called on the carpet or suspended again.If, during a debate with anyone, you feel that they are violating guidelines then, by all means, put up a quick thread asking for moderator assistance. This is not what was done. You started a thread for the sole purpose of dumping on your opponant.At the risk of dropping any objectivity I may still have, I do agree with much that you and Arach have been arguing. With that said, you are not asking me to be objective, you want me to take your side. I could have done this at the start of the difficulties if I had been informed, but not now.All I can offer is objectivity from now on if I am kept informed as to possible problems. Anyone who wants to keep a bug up his/her butt is welcome to it but don't cry foul if that bug is smashed where it liesThis message has been edited by AdminAsgara, 04-25-2005 05:06 PM

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Just a quick observation,If you are making your case well no one will believe any lies / misrepresentations about what was said. Also, someone keeping their cool comes off as an adult and their argument will be given more credence (witness Sylas).

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I have no intention of leaving it closed. Just want to resolve the major issue that seems to be derailing it right now.

Ahh maybe you can explain how reposting YOUR OP and closing the thread for a short time to let everyone reread the OP is a "trick?"And just how was there anything to "fall for?"

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