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Author Topic:   General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures 12.0
kuresu
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Message 70 of 199 (421685)
09-13-2007 8:31 PM


brenna's suspension
I'm not sure I agree with the length of the suspension given brenna.

It'll take some searching, but I do believe she's mentioned previously that she cannot tell the difference between a capital and lower case letter. And as admin nem mentions, brenna has mentioned previously that she doesn't need/want to be scolded for not using capitalization. What other reaction can one expect from brenna aside from extreme aggravation?

Could she have expressed her anger better? Sure. Does her post demand a 12 hour suspension? No.

If anything, also suspend mark for goading. Seeing as how he's responsible for unleashing the ad hominem.
Also, his post doesn't fall in with AdminQ's warning:

Either contribute to this thread through reasoned discussion of the OP, or refrain from posting. No more warnings
. His post adds nothing to the debate. So why is he not suspended?

brenna
http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=6&t=716&m=197
mark24
http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=6&t=716&m=199
Admin Nem
http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=6&t=716&m=202


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kuresu
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Message 73 of 199 (421811)
09-14-2007 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Dr Adequate
09-14-2007 2:39 AM


Re: brenna's suspension
Apparently my statement:
Could she have expressed her anger better? Sure. Does her post demand a 12 hour suspension? No

isn't clear enough. I was arguing for reducing the suspension.
It seemed to me to be an overly harsh punishment, especially given that Mark24 wasn't suspended (that I know of) for adding nothing to that debate (precisely what AdminQ said would get people suspended).

ABE:
just looked for the suspension thread and saw mark's name mentioned.

Edited by kuresu, : No reason given.


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kuresu
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Message 111 of 199 (422101)
09-15-2007 8:18 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by AdminNem
09-15-2007 3:43 PM


Re: brenna's suspension
I simply didn't think that it was a suspendable offense

You know, AdminQ warned that any more posts in that thread that did not further discussion would warrant suspension.

The point of his statement, as I understood it, was to limit any more flaming by telling everyone that any unproductive post would cause a suspension.

You read his post.

especially after AdminQuetzal has issued a warning

www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=6&t=716&m=202#202 -->www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=6&t=716&m=202#202">http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=6&t=716&m=202#202.

You should have suspended both at the same time if you were going to suspend one.


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kuresu
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Message 123 of 199 (422626)
09-17-2007 9:12 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by Ihategod
09-17-2007 8:36 PM


Um, if you'll pay attention, he's been able to post again for a short while.

In fact, check out his thread on the lack of evidence for adenine on the murchison meteor.

He got suspended for a week because he asked mike the wiz to post a new "summary" in a now closed thread while he was suspended. Admin moved that to a month after he was suspected of arguing yet again through another poster. After finding this wasn't the case, the suspension was reduced to the original week. The original suspension (1 day, as I recall) came because after giving a "summary" in that thread, he continued on debating after have been told, expressly, that people were to only summarize (the thread had but 12 messages left and was very active)

People are suspended for not following the rules, longer for brazen flouting of such. Asking someone to debate for you, while you are suspended, is but a variation on creating a new profile while your original is suspended so that you can continue to debate. It shows an immense disrespect for the rules, and as such, should be treated harshly. Anyone doing such deserves this.


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kuresu
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Message 149 of 199 (422860)
09-18-2007 2:28 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by Hyroglyphx
09-18-2007 1:45 PM


Re: Question about Offensive Content
Sorry, Vacate, but I'm backing Admin on this one

Really? You see, Admin's post agree's with Vacate--that image should be hidden if on this site.

You're arguing that it should be left visible.

But in the final analysis, those in positions of authority have the final word

Is that what you think a democracy is? It isn't. EvC is not a democracy if this is how it's actually run.
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kuresu
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Message 182 of 199 (423958)
09-24-2007 10:55 PM
Reply to: Message 181 by Hyroglyphx
09-24-2007 10:47 PM


Re: Permanent Suspension = Ban
Aren't there some shifting IP addresses?

By the way, the forum software allows you to change your name. So the example of Vashgun's multiple names (or say, Jon's massive number of names) isn't valid.

Try rob, or cold foreign object. Rob was at one point scottness--but as a totally different account that was later merged. Cold Foreign Object was Herepton, but Ray (Herepton) started the CFO as a totally new account that has now been merged.

Did you ever try joining up from a different internet connection?


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