This whole thing was brought about when we began to discuss the behaviour of NJ in Thread Divinity of Jesus in Forum Bible Study. It seemed that NJ swaying off-topic was against forum guidelines, and his misrepresentation of his opponents position was immoral, in my opinion. I asked Phat why he had not done anything about it, though it had been pointed out to him earlier that day, and he replied
Phat
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Nem, while not entireley honest, did make some good posts that challenged Jars whole modus operendi
Jon,
Thank you for voicing your concerns. I will attempt to address your grievances as far as they relate to myself.
As Phat has said, Jar has a very structured modus operendi. Jar first reels in the fish by heaping one invective upon another. This is otherwise known as, "goading," which, in his defense, he usually reserves for the chatroom. He claims that all creationists are "snake oil salesmen," and that most fundamentalist Christians are "evil," "Christian Bobbleheads," etc, etc. I'm sure you've seen any of those a number of times since you've been a member. What he is doing is otherwise known as "slander." I doubt very much that anyone other than Jar could get away with the things he says.
When somebody challenges him on his assertions, his claim, no matter what is actually said, is that the response is invariably "irrelevant," "bullshit," or a "strawman." I'm sure you've seen this too.
The secondary plan is just to not respond at all to a direct question.
This is a disengenuous way to debate, and no member should be burdened by it when the sole purpose of a forum is share ideas.
Now, my mentioning of it in that thread was not the appropriate place. I take full responsibility for that. I should, however, bring to your attention that you too decided to respond to me in the same fashion and even referred to me as a "fool." So not only are you hypocriticaly stating that I am off topic, but you also added ad hominem in to the mix. This is not your only instance of doing such things either.
This should not happen again because I have resolved to make a change. Since this has been brought to Jar's attention numerous times, and no change in attitude has resulted, I am opting to ignore Jar from here on out in a member role. I see no purpose in continuing this kind of a debate. I will only respond to Jar in an Admin status when intervention is necessary.
I hope that clears the air and answers your criticisms so that we can continue debating in the most productive way possible.