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AdminNosy
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Message 198 of 303 (127641)
07-26-2004 3:53 AM
Reply to: Message 197 by entwine
07-26-2004 3:37 AM


what do you want to do?
Welcome aboard, entwine
I'd suggest reading the forum guidelines and browsing some threads for a bit. Then dive in.
There is a real chance to learn here and I hope you can also contribute something.
No matter what side you are on it is almost always better to ask more questions than it is to make assertions. You need to understand what the other guy is saying even if, sometimes, they don't.
(added by edit)
Ah, I see. You disagree with my comments and warning to whatever.
You should review the past postings of whatever. He has rarely contributed anything but unfounded rants and shows an decided lack of ability to read.
I think if you review the opening post and then go over whatever's post you might see that there isn't any real connection within the scope of the thread. If you disagree I'd like to see what you have to say.
The interest, as I understand it, is to look at the actual extra-biblical history of Christianity. Going on about Adam and Eve doesn't contribute anything to that at all. So far I stand by the warning and will suspend whatever if he tries it again.
That is heavily based on whatever's past history.
This message has been edited by AdminNosy, 07-26-2004 02:58 AM
{Footnote from Adminnemooseus - This all refers to AdminNosy's warning given at http://EvC Forum: The Origins of Christianity. See above and below also}
This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 07-26-2004 03:04 AM

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AdminNosy
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Message 221 of 303 (148179)
10-07-2004 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 220 by crashfrog
10-07-2004 5:14 PM


Re: From "Junk DNA":
I would suggest not responding. When thinking over Percy's concerns about who we get here a tought arose.
The whatever's and salty's of the world aren't going to be given the time of day by anyone with any serious thinking ability anywhere else. They come here to engage people in conversation that, to them, gives them some importance.
Once the quality of the posters thinking has been sorted out then I think that no response is the best response.
There is a chance that they will, in desparation for attention, start posting all over the place whether relevant or not. This will get them suspended. As soon as we sort out the "bootcamp" I hope that those of us attempting to moderate will move these people there sooner rather than later.

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AdminNosy
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Message 223 of 303 (148185)
10-07-2004 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 222 by crashfrog
10-07-2004 6:11 PM


It is difficult
I'll just give you my view. I know it varies with all the admins.
It is very difficult to strike the right balance when moderating these things. My approach is usually to go way over to the side of letting the less skilled (to be polite) get away with a lot. I hope you'll be complimented to know that I would not be inclined to let you get away with squat.
It is difficult to pin down exactly when it is time to take action.
In the recent involvment I had with whatever I got trapped into actually engaging him in the debate itself and was stuck somewhere between normal (if any of us are ) and admin mode. At that point it becomes much harder to suspend him. I was about to anyway when AdminMooseus stepped in and saved me from it.
As far as Davidson goes I wasn't following closely enough to make a decision. In his case I think ignoring him will either cause him to go away or to do something that makes the suspension decision easy.
Meanwhile, please have a look at and comment on my note regarding the "Debate Bootcamp" (it should be cleaned up soon). I would like comment on that.
With that in place I think we will be able to try something that is easy to do than full suspension but more controlled than the FFA has been. It will require, however, not just moderation but also a very special kind of support from all posters (you being a significant one, Crash). Let me know what you think.

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AdminNosy
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Message 225 of 303 (148188)
10-07-2004 6:30 PM
Reply to: Message 224 by crashfrog
10-07-2004 6:28 PM


Sigh, I'll have a look
I'll look in more detail then. It's a busy day give me a few hours please.

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AdminNosy
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Message 228 of 303 (148227)
10-07-2004 9:09 PM
Reply to: Message 227 by Adminnemooseus
10-07-2004 7:34 PM


Insults?
I'm pretty sure that Moose is unlikely to react to an insult to him. I would have to be pushed awfully hard to do anything to someone who choose to insult me in Admin mode.
However, to many insults to others and I will, eventually, suspend someone.

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