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Message 58 of 653 (451947)
01-29-2008 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by New Cat's Eye
01-28-2008 5:58 PM


The 300-post limit needs to be explained periodically. The original software used by this board would become very unreliable when a thread grew longer than around 300-400 posts. When this happened posts would be lost, and sometimes even entire threads, so we imposed the 300 post limit. It was then discovered that the limit was actually a benefit, as it imposed an endpoint on what would otherwise be an unending discussion. Sequel threads were and are common, but they provide an opportunity to refocus on the essential issues, or to modify the focus to what had been discovered to be the essential issues during discussion.
The new software has no such limitation, but we continue to find the 300-post limit very useful. Later this year the message database will be moving into MySQL, which should provide even greater reliability, as well as make possible the implementation of many new features. One feature would be setting the post limit of threads, and another would provide automatic notices as a thread approaches the limit.

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Message 61 of 653 (452657)
01-30-2008 10:09 PM
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01-29-2008 10:42 AM


Catholic Scientist writes:
Weren't you talking about going to dBoard 3.0 sometime before? Did you decide on MySQL instead?
dBoard 2.0, the current installed version, uses MySQL for the member database. dBoard 3.0 will use MySQL for the message database, too. I already have most of the software written and debugged, but I need a large block of free time (weeks) to complete it and then release it.
Yes, the limit should be in the FAQ.

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Message 86 of 653 (457025)
02-21-2008 11:25 AM


No Discussion in This Thread
The Jesus/Bastard exchanges shouldn't turn into a discussion in this thread.

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Message 100 of 653 (487038)
10-27-2008 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 99 by Buzsaw
10-26-2008 6:43 PM


Re: Regarding Freeforall Threads
Only moderators can initiate threads in [forum=-15].
Anyone may initiate a thread in [forum=-14]. No thread proposal is needed or desired.
At the top of the table listing the topics for any forum is a list of the constraints for that forum. For this thread, [forum=-19], it's this:
Moderators: Site Administrators
New Topics: All registered users may post new topics.
Replies: All registered users may post replies.

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Message 102 of 653 (487129)
10-27-2008 7:48 PM
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10-27-2008 7:22 PM


Re: New Topic
See Message 275.

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Message 119 of 653 (498118)
02-08-2009 6:16 AM
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02-08-2009 12:24 AM


Re: uplift???
Buzsaw writes:
Due to the lack of vegetation, it doesn't appear to be very old.
Replies to questions raised in this thread should be from people who know the answer or can at least offer informed insights. This isn't the right thread for introducing opinions for discussion.
Please, no replies to this message.

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Message 203 of 653 (635843)
10-02-2011 7:08 AM
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10-02-2011 4:42 AM


Re: Chat
F&L is correct, it's on the todo list, but you are correct, too, we did used to have chat. It was provided by third party software. Initially it was free, then $10/year, then $25/year, then $75/year. At the last price hike I disabled the feature, and I don't know what the price is now.
But because I want to take this discussion board software commercial I couldn't continue to use 3rd party software anyway. We have to have our own native chat facility, and it is on the todo list, but the programming department is a bit shorthanded and there is no schedule at present.

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Message 220 of 653 (636225)
10-04-2011 7:25 PM
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10-03-2011 8:18 PM


Re: message CC?
Structuring database tables and formulating efficient queries with the current structure of a single reply-to and multiple replies is already very challenging. Multiple reply-to's and CC's would sort of be the concrete slab that broke the camel's back.

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Message 231 of 653 (645724)
12-29-2011 8:33 AM
Reply to: Message 228 by New Cat's Eye
12-28-2011 3:06 PM


Member Ratings Explained
It didn't receive much attention at the time, but a few months ago the member rating formula was greatly simplified after some discussions with Nwr. It works like this:
  • Only messages from the last 90 days are used to calculate member ratings.
  • All cheers and jeers for a member are summed. A cheer is plus one, a jeer is minus one.
  • The sum of all cheers and jeers is divided over the member's total number of messages for the past 90 days, giving his raw rating.
  • The raw ratings across all members are normalized into the range 1 to 10, with 1 lowest and 10 highest. The results are the ratings you see.
Because the total number of messages is in the denominator, the new scheme penalizes those who post lots of messages that receive no votes but whose raw rating is positive. It of course benefits those whose raw rating is negative, but those with low ratings tend to post messages that receive some voting attention.
When I made the rating change Crash commented that he was surprised that my Percy rating isn't pegged at 10, so I made a little code change that only he can see, but he hasn't noticed yet.
The ability to view your messages that have received votes will be implemented at the same time as the automated post of the month system. It's high on my list of things to do, but I'm currently working on converting over to a templating system.
The templating system will allow webmaster customizations and multi-language capability (not including message content, of course). I'll be needing volunteer translators soon, I've already got Spanish covered. It's a small amount of translation work, maybe 2000 words total. Example phrase: "Click to view first unread message."

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Message 234 of 653 (645799)
12-30-2011 7:57 AM
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12-29-2011 10:40 AM


Re: Member Ratings Explained
Catholic Scientist writes:
When you click on a members name and get to their list of posts, it be cool if you could sort those by the column headers: Topic / Forum. Also, if there was a date column you could sort by too.
I would like this too, and it is on my todo list.
About just the last part, it's already sorted by the date/time of the member's last message in the thread - do you mean the date/time when the thread was started?

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Message 240 of 653 (645898)
12-31-2011 9:45 AM
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12-31-2011 8:53 AM


Re: Ratings Still Suck
Granny Magda writes:
I know that some people like the ratings system and I know that it's part of Percy's programming goals, but I just can't help but think that it is counter to the goal of promoting understanding through discussion.
The way I see it, at any venue like EvC Forum there are multiple influences pulling people in different directions, and complicating matters, no one influence affects everyone the same way. For example, what some see as a discouraging factor others might see as motivational.
In other words, it's not simple. You have a good point, but there are also good counter arguments.
Perhaps your best argument is that the only reason EvC Forum has a rating system is because I think it is a necessary feature for a discussion board product. Can't argue with you there.
Anyway, on my todo list is the ability for individuals to enable/disable the rating system for themselves personally, assuming the webmaster has turned the rating system on. I'm not sure at this point what disabling the system for oneself personally would mean. Would it mean that they couldn't see any rating-related information? Or would it mean not only that, but also that other people couldn't rate their messages or see their member rating?

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Message 243 of 653 (645919)
12-31-2011 4:41 PM
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12-31-2011 1:21 PM


Re: Ratings Still Suck
I like these ideas. I'll keep them in mind when I think about changes the next time I remodel the rating system.

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Message 258 of 653 (648292)
01-14-2012 8:52 AM
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01-13-2012 10:15 PM


Re: Member Ratings. what about comment rating?
Zen Deist writes:
Another kick that may be cool but difficult to implement would be a highlight and "like" the highlighted quote, then when the "well written" button is hovered it would either pop out the section or highlight it.
Yeah, neat idea, and probably not too difficult as long as it's okay if it ignores subsequent edits to the original message. There will be improvements to the rating system over time, but I'm working on something else right now.
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Message 259 of 653 (648293)
01-14-2012 8:56 AM
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01-13-2012 10:30 PM


Re: Member Ratings. what about comment rating?
Coyote writes:
I suggested long ago three ratings:
Post of the day
Post of the week
Post of the month
That way there are no negative ratings, just good, better and best.
The suggestion was ignored of course...
About the post of the day/week/month, that's exactly my intention, and also year and decade. No schedule at this time.
About the "no negative ratings", removing that can be done in an instant through the control panel, but it would make detecting problems more difficult since if I make a change that broke negative ratings I might not find it. Sorry.

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Message 260 of 653 (648294)
01-14-2012 9:06 AM
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01-14-2012 8:18 AM


Re: Helpful Side Note
Buzsaw writes:
Hi Herebedragons. If you hit the bracket key instead of the parenthesis key, your message link will work.
Actually it will end up referring to the wrong message. What he wants to say is [msg=252], not [mid=252]. [msg] takes the message number, while [mid] takes the message ID, which is the gray number at the top of the message next to "Message x of y"..
Message numbers are unique in a thread and are assigned in sequence beginning at 1 at the beginning of the thread. Once assigned message numbers do not change. This means that deleting message 10 doesn't cause message 11 to become message 10. Message 11 will always be message 11, no matter how many earlier messages are deleted.
Message IDs are unique across the whole forum, beginning at 1 and extending into the six hundred thousands.

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