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AdminPD Inactive Administrator |
If you have a quick question about using the board or where to find info on a subject, etc.; this is the thread for you.
NOTE: This is not a debate thread. Edited by AdminPD, : Signature Update Usually, in a well-conducted debate, speakers are either emotionally uncommitted or can preserve sufficient detachment to maintain a coolly academic approach.-- Encyclopedia Brittanica, on debate
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dwise1 Member Posts: 4436 Joined: Member Rating: 3.5 |
I've added a signature to my profile, but it doesn't display.
Procedure followed: How to I get my signature to display? Edited by dwise1, : Added the procedure I had followed. Edited by dwise1, : No reason given. {When you search for God, y}ou can't go to the people who believe already. They've made up their minds and want to convince you of their own personal heresy. ("The Jehovah Contract", AKA "Der Jehova-Vertrag", by Viktor Koman, 1984) And we who listen to the stars, or walk the dusty grade,
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jar Member Posts: 33187 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
when posting, check the box to show signature
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dwise1 Member Posts: 4436 Joined: Member Rating: 3.5 |
Thanks. Didn't see that one.
{When you search for God, y}ou can't go to the people who believe already. They've made up their minds and want to convince you of their own personal heresy. ("The Jehovah Contract", AKA "Der Jehova-Vertrag", by Viktor Koman, 1984) And we who listen to the stars, or walk the dusty grade,
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Zucadragon Member (Idle past 2349 days) Posts: 61 From: Netherlands Joined: |
As a bit of testing for myself, I've had a look at whats called the evolution cruncher.. Basically its a pretty large list of misinformation, straw mans and just plain lies.
So I'm slowly working my way through it, knowing that a lot of the questions asked by new creationists will probably come from this "cruncher". Theres little bits of data here and there, can anyone point me to a book or article that seems to have more precise and conclusive data on it.. Most pages I visit give a lot of "we aren't really sure, but it might indicate or might prove" without any backing real information. Can anyone help me out with this one ? Bold is after edit. Here I show what the evolution has to say about Comets, now I know the oort cloud has been shown to be the primary source of comets.. But as I said, I can't find much information on it (though in a recent chat I have been given some links so some nice information, so I'm looking into that as well) 8 - COMETS—Comets, journeying around the sun, are assumed to have the same age as our world and solar system. But, as *Fred Whipple has acknowledged, astronomers have no idea where or how comets originated. Yet we know that they are continually disintegrating. This is because they are composed of bits of rocky debris held together by frozen gases and water. Each time a comet circles the sun, some of the ice is evaporated and some of the gas is boiled away by the sun’s heat. Additional material is lost through gravitational forces, tail formation, meteor stream production, and radiative forces. The most spectacular part of a comet is its tail, yet this consists of material driven away from its head by solar energy. All the tail material is lost in space as the comet moves onward. A number of comets have broken up and dissipated within the period of human observation. Some of those regularly seen in the nineteenth century have now vanished. Others have died spectacularly by plunging into the sun. Evidently all the comets should self-destruct within a time frame that is fairly short. Careful study has indicated that the effect of this dissolution process on short-term comets would have totally dissipated them within 10,000 years. There are numerous comets circling our sun, including many short-term ones, with no source of new comets known to exist. Edited by Zucadragon, : Added evolution cruncher info.
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AdminNem Inactive Member |
This isn't exactly a short question.
Why don't you go ahead and copy the text and place it in to the Proposed Topics forum
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
S/he did.
AdminPD told him/her to move it here.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Typical creationist nonsense. Even if we had no clue where comets came from this would not logically result. The only thing you need to have to make this argument invalid is a source for comets that can "replenish" the number that we see -- specifically short term comets. The other question is what causes the self-destruction -- if it is due to repeated passages close to the gravity well of the sun (causing tidal forces to break up the body), then it is related to the number of passes rather than the term of the comet. http://www.solarviews.com/eng/oort.htm quote: So the Oort cloud can supply new long-term comets at any time for as long as the cloud exists. Any long-term comet can be converted to a short-term comet by a change in orbit (passes too close to Jupiter on one of it's rare long-term passes). http://www.fas.org/irp/imint/docs/rst/Sect19/Sect19_22.html quote: Doesn't sound like we need to worry about running out any time soon - if we lost a short-term comet every year and replaced it with one of the trillions in the Oort cloud, it would be a very long time ... Enjoy. ps - this is a Hovind classic, and a PRATT http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood-yea.html#proof3 Edited by RAZD, : clarity. compare Fiocruz Genome and fight Muscular Dystrophy with Team EvC! (click) we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmericanOZen[Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share.
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AdminPD Inactive Administrator |
The bold part was not in the PNT. In his original post he was only asking about books or articles that would have more precise info.
The bold seems to be what he has found so far. He isn't really wanting a debate, just direction on the web. So no one should be arguing with him, just directing him.
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jar Member Posts: 33187 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
Just to give you an idea of the number of objects in the Oort cloud, the mass of the Oort cloud is something greater than 3x Earth. Since the density of most comets is considerably lower that the average density of earth (remember frozen water is even less dense than liquid water) there is a whole bunch of candidates out there to draw comets from.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 9 days) Posts: 16112 Joined: |
http://www.skepticwiki.org/index.php/Comets
See also my thread on Even Younger Earth Creationism. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Zucadragon Member (Idle past 2349 days) Posts: 61 From: Netherlands Joined: |
okay, I'm going to be gone for a week, so no replies during that time, thanks for all the info so far, got it bookmarked/copied and with some help I got at the chat, I'm also going to look around a bit more.
Thanks and have a nice week.
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Taz Member (Idle past 2084 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Why do dogs rub themselves in dead and decaying animal corpses?
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nator Member (Idle past 963 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
I always thought it was becasue it is what wild dogs/their ancestors did to disguise their smell to potential prey.
I did a google and fount this link You know, I'm happy to learn new things, but you could google things yourself. :)
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Taz Member (Idle past 2084 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
The pact identity explanation actually makes sense, considering all 3 of my dogs rubbed themselves in the dead... something.
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