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dwise1
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Message 496 of 569 (860643)
08-09-2019 11:57 AM


Need Smartphone Recommendation
I've had a Windows Phone for the past four years and have been very happy with it. However, a couple years ago Microsoft discontinued that product and since then third party support has been disappearing. For example, I used to use Facebook on my phone, but then Facebook dropped support. Uber and Lyft both used to support Windows phones but no longer do.

As the time approaches for me to get a new phone, I need to know what's available. For example, I really like the iPhone 10's Liquid Retina display. My friend got one just before we went to Italy and while I couldn't see the map app even in the shade, we could see hers clearly even in direct sunlight (as I recall, or maybe we were just in regular shade). That is a feature that I would really want, but getting an iPhone is out of the question.

Does anybody know which phones have that display technology?


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Message 497 of 569 (860676)
08-09-2019 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 494 by mike the wiz
07-11-2019 9:50 AM


Re: Please name this fallacy
mike the wiz writes:

CONCLUSION: I think atheists can use things like confirmation bias and post hoc reasoning just as technicalities. It's a way of broadly concluding all prayer is unanswered, as a sort of sweeping generalisation, where in actuality they themselves don't know that it was not answered.

That would be a classic burden of proof fallacy.


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Tanypteryx
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Message 498 of 569 (860685)
08-09-2019 10:32 PM
Reply to: Message 496 by dwise1
08-09-2019 11:57 AM


Re: Need Smartphone Recommendation
My 1st smart phone was a Samsung Note 2. I loved having a stylus and quickly felt lost when I misplaced it, briefly. Now I'm using a Note 8 and I like it also. I have a suite of apps that are useful in all the interests I have. Weather Bug is a great weather app and it includes a lightning detector that shows real time lightning strikes overlaid on a satellite map, really useful for storm photography. I listen to lots of audiobooks and music and have nice apps for that. Plus I can send audio including phone calls to my hearing aids via bluetooth. Both times when I needed the phones Verizon was running specials and they didn't cost anything and I didn't have to sign a time specified contract. I also get strong signal when a lot of my friends on ATT have none.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

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dwise1
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Message 499 of 569 (860696)
08-10-2019 4:47 AM
Reply to: Message 498 by Tanypteryx
08-09-2019 10:32 PM


Re: Need Smartphone Recommendation
Of course, my main concerns are two-fold: 1) A display that I can read in the sunlight, like on the iPhone 10, and 2) a phone that I can actually use (which basically requires being able to copy files between the phone and my computer, something the Apple Store genius assured me cannot be done outside their update software (trying to use iTunes already too traumatic; I even only used the similar HTC program only once with my first smartphone because it was out of control).

So does anybody know of a smartphone whose display can be read in sunlight and does not run Apple software?

Edited by dwise1, : slight mod to final paragraph


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PaulK
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Message 500 of 569 (860697)
08-10-2019 6:05 AM
Reply to: Message 496 by dwise1
08-09-2019 11:57 AM


Re: Need Smartphone Recommendation
“Liquid Retina” is LCD technology. Apple only have it on the (less expensive) iPhone XR - the others iPhone X versions are all OLED. OLED displays are easier to find- most high-end Smartphones and even the mid-range use OLED displays. If OLED works for you it shouldn’t be too hard to find an Android phone which suits.

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Message 501 of 569 (860702)
08-10-2019 9:17 AM
Reply to: Message 499 by dwise1
08-10-2019 4:47 AM


Re: Need Smartphone Recommendation
...being able to copy files between the phone and my computer....

Is a cloud synching service like Dropbox not an option?


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Message 502 of 569 (860704)
08-10-2019 10:06 AM
Reply to: Message 499 by dwise1
08-10-2019 4:47 AM


Files from Phone
I have an old Samsung S4 android phone. The easiest way to move files to and from is to cable from it's micro USB port to a USB port on my PC. The non standard cable for apple is one reason I won't buy one.
Then I just copy files as if the phone is another drive on my PC. That should never be a problem.
Also the phone supports a micro USB card. I told it to write fotos taken with it to that card not the limited internal storage.

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Message 503 of 569 (860717)
08-10-2019 3:08 PM
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08-10-2019 10:06 AM


Re: Files from Phone
I've had two smartphones, the first an HTC android and the second and current an HTC Windows phone.

What you describe is exactly how I've been transferring files between my phone and my computer. Hook up the USB cable, the phone opens in the File Explorer as an external device, copy-and-paste, etc. Easy-peasy.

My first phone came with a file manager program for my computer. I only used it once, because that shtupid thing went through my hard disk and downloaded all kinds of files to my phone, including my iPod Nano's music files. I had no control over what it did nor did it tell me anything about what directories were involved. iPhones have a similar app for your Windows computer that, as far as I can tell, does the exact-same thing, so using that app is most definitely not an option and since it's the only direct way then that's a big mark against the iPhone. The terribly frustrating experience of using iTunes doesn't help their case much either; my standard explanation for my very short haircut is so that I can't tear my hair out when trying to use iTunes.

I'm a retired software engineer and during the last 31 years of my 36-year career I worked with MS-DOS and Windows systems plus some Linux. During that time helping family members, I had only one OK experience with Macs and that was only because I knew some TCP/IP and UNIX and could set the eMac up as an FTP server (he had overwritten his new printer drivers with the old OS9 drivers, so I downloaded the new driver from hP, but it was too big for USB drives at the time and the only way to get it into his eMac was via FTP) and all the others were horrific. Engineers I was working with whose spouses had insisted on a Mac at home had similar horror stories of trying to help her with her Mac. Our consensus was that Apples are meant for people who don't know how to use computers and not for people who do.

I found a YouTube video, Why I don't use Apple products, which describes it better. On it, Louis Rossmann describes his experiences with Apple products (which he repairs for a living) in which the simplest things that every computer professional has known how to do for years (eg, file transfer) Apple makes either extremely difficult or impossible to do.

Basically, the purpose of a tool is to be able to use it. A tool that you have to find ways to work around is a very poor tool to have.

The non standard cable for apple is one reason I won't buy one.

Hadn't thought about that. Thanks.


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Message 504 of 569 (860718)
08-10-2019 3:08 PM
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08-10-2019 9:17 AM


Re: Need Smartphone Recommendation
Is a cloud synching service like Dropbox not an option?

Not an option.


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dwise1
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Message 505 of 569 (860719)
08-10-2019 3:11 PM
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08-10-2019 6:05 AM


Re: Need Smartphone Recommendation
“Liquid Retina” is LCD technology. Apple only have it on the (less expensive) iPhone XR - the others iPhone X versions are all OLED. OLED displays are easier to find- most high-end Smartphones and even the mid-range use OLED displays. If OLED works for you it shouldn’t be too hard to find an Android phone which suits.

So then the secret to those displays is OLED?

I'll know to ask about that. Thanks.


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Message 506 of 569 (860720)
08-10-2019 3:16 PM
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08-10-2019 3:11 PM


Re: Need Smartphone Recommendation
Probably - but the Liquid Retina screen is just a very good LCD. I doubt that a good OLED screen is worse though, or Apple wouldn’t use them.

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Message 507 of 569 (860723)
08-10-2019 5:19 PM
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08-10-2019 10:06 AM


Re: Files from Phone
I transfer files on my Samsung Notes the same way, but I can also download them from attachments on emails or texts. 64GB memory on the micro SD card has been plenty so far, plus backed up to my laptop.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 508 of 569 (860724)
08-10-2019 5:22 PM
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08-10-2019 3:11 PM


Re: Need Smartphone Recommendation
I have not seen any displays on cameras or phones that are easier to see in direct sunlight, but my notes have seemed ok.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 509 of 569 (860725)
08-10-2019 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 496 by dwise1
08-09-2019 11:57 AM


Re: Need Smartphone Recommendation
The only serious competitors in this market are Apple and Samsung, if you ask me. I pretty much use Mac for everything, so I've integrated a laptop, iWatch, and iPhone into everything. Their quality is outstanding, even though Samsung has dipped into their sales a lot of the course of about 5 years. I think if you go with iPhone you won't disappointed.

Samsung offers a good line but I've heard they've had a lot of hiccups... and at this point I'm pretty pissed with the company because I purchased a 3K refrigerator which is great, except the fact that the ice makers are apparently faulty due to an engineering mistake that they refuse to correct... because its deficient in basically all of them and the payout would be enormous. There's a class action lawsuit going on currently.

The point is, its that lack of integrity and a sense of cutting corners that rubs me the wrong way... Never had that with a single Apple product. Reliable, every time, and there is a meticulous nature about the company that I find attractive.


"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Message 510 of 569 (860737)
08-10-2019 11:49 PM
Reply to: Message 509 by Hyroglyphx
08-10-2019 7:01 PM


Re: Need Smartphone Recommendation
Never had that with a single Apple product. Reliable, every time, and there is a meticulous nature about the company that I find attractive.

If you had watched that video, Why I don't use Apple products, then you would have known better than to claim that:

He repairs Apple hardware for a living, so he has seen bad engineering by Apple up close. For example, do you remember which iPhone it was that if you held it like everyone holds a smartphone to make a call, it wouldn't work because your hand was shorting out its antenna? "Reliable, every time,"? Look again.

But the main reason I had linked to that video was because he had stated the situation much better than I and my engineering colleagues had. We would say that Apple products are for people who don't know how to use a computer, and horrible for people who do know. In that video, he described the situation as Apple taking the simplest most common tasks that everybody having experience with computers know how to do and making those tasks extremely difficult if not impossible. Like in my case (and he cites his own experience as well), copying a file from one device to another. Perhaps the simplest operation you could ever want to perform, but on an Apple product it is virtually impossible and achievable only though a kludge that you might be able to put together.

I think if you go with iPhone you won't disappointed.

No, I am quite certain that I would be very disappointed. My past experiences with Apple products have almost all be very bad (except for using my iPod Nano, but then in order to delete a video file I had to Google for a third-party manual because Apple won't tell you a thing about how to use their products). When I DJ for my dance teacher whose music is on her iPhone, a shtupid read dialog will often pop up preventing me from hitting pause and with no apparent way to get rid of it. Apple products are most definitely not user-friendly.

Let's face it, if the only way you can get a product to work is by coming up with kludges that are needed to work around the product, then that product has big problems. When I buy a smartphone, it's because I want to use it. I would not be able to use an iPhone, so why buy one in order to have an overpriced paperweight?


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