My apologies for misreading you, Percy. I get it right often but admittedly do have my senior moments. Perhaps the day will come when you'll get a taste of crow as well. ;)
Ringo has described an almost obsessive/compulsive behavior when reviewing his messages for errors before posting them. It sounds not too unlike myself. It takes more time up-front, but it saves time on the back end correcting errors and explaining what you really meant.
I didn't find a venue for direct contact with either gentlemen, but did find a possible indirect contact via their respective associations to which I sent requests for direct contact. We'll see what comes up.
Due to some topic flagging in this thread I am requesting permission to respond to Jar's message 54 in this thread. I have sound corroborating on topic support for my position here. This is on topic as per the thread title and OP to refute the contention of some in this thread who are trying to argue that all humans are sons of God.
The point is for lurkers and other passerbys to read and judge for themselves whos' got the evidencial high ground. You're making a martyr out of simple by using your mod accounts to make unwarranted remarks.
Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style.
He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!
Hi Percy. I have managed to contact both gentlemen now and heard back from Dr Michael Behe. He has advised that I contact (http://www.ideacenter.org/), which I have done. I have contacted this organization with my request and am waiting for responses from Dr. Baumgardner and these folks. Behe says these are young science apprised people for the most part and would likely be my best bet for possible recruitment to our site. I'll keep you posted on this. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.
I note that Nemesis Juggernaut has chosen to revive an months-old Showcase thread as an excuse to make the usual Creationist slanders about evolution.
If he really wants to discuss the subject - and I don't think that he does - he has every opportunity to propose a thread to deal with the issue in the other forums. The only advantage of using the Showcase forum, are to escape moderation and to make it harder for people to point out the falsehoods in his post. Hardly noble motives.
I would like it noted that you do not see presumptions of moral superiority as insulting. You see only harsh language as insulting. There was nothing personal in that post. I am perfectly willing to say the same thing to any other moralizing moron who happens along.
I too must call shenanigans on AdminPD. Going back to the opening post, it wasn't just about deathbed conversions. It's about we'll all obviously have deathbed conversions, given that...
...we were all created to worship God, and that given Jesus's death and the deposit of the Holy Spirit, we all know God, regardless of our religion.
Now I know it would be a shame if we got sidetracked away from riVeRraT saying, "Nuh-uh, you WILL believe in God! ADMIT IT ADMIT IT ADMIT IT!" over and over and over and over again. Really, just a stunning loss to the collective wisdom of mankind. But since riVeRraT's whole premise is based on a pretty fierce misunderstanding of atheists, it would seem that what atheists believe, and how it compares Christian belief, is pretty relevant.
"I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert