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Ben!
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Message 46 of 304 (200288)
04-19-2005 3:44 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ben!
12-12-2004 7:01 AM


Re-escaping in "preview"
Every time I hit "preview," the URL inside of my "A" tag is being re-escaped.
http://EvC Forum: Abusive Assumptions -->EvC Forum: Abusive Assumptions
gets turned into
EvC Forum: Abusive Assumptions
click again,
http://EvC Forum: Information -->EvC Forum: Information
click again,
shortened
So every time I re-edit my message and click "preview" again, this happens.
Now, looks like your URL decoding handles this for your own website, but I doubt other websites handle it. I don't know a good URL to check offhand...
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Message 47 of 304 (200337)
04-19-2005 10:10 AM
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04-19-2005 3:44 AM


Re: Re-escaping in "preview"
This is a known bug, but it's low in priority. The reason it gets interpreted correctly is because when links are parsed by browsers and web servers, this happens:
& => & => & => &
One way to avoid the problem is to instead use dBCodes, e.g., [msg=-19,-270,-1].

--Percy
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Ben!
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Message 48 of 304 (200615)
04-20-2005 3:41 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ben!
12-12-2004 7:01 AM


Weird thing today.
I access this website via http://EvC Forum: All Topics using FireFox. Today I clicked a link to this website that was inside one of of Lam's posts. Apparently he refered to the website via EvC Forum: All Topics.
When I entered the site via EvC Forum: All Topics, I was no longer logged in.
I guess this happens due to the cookie mechanism you're using? I guess because the host name is different, cookie retrieval fails? I was surprised. Suddenly my paging and preferences were gone!
Anyhoo.
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Message 49 of 304 (200674)
04-20-2005 10:16 AM
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04-20-2005 3:41 AM


I noticed this when Lam first posted that message. There are two things happening, one that I understand, one that I don't:
  1. http:/// doesn't seem like it should go to the same site as http:///, but it does. When you type "google.com" into the brower's address box, it brings up Google". So when you type "" into the browser's address box, it should either bring up http://, or it should bring up http:// which is a different site, but it should not do what it's doing, which is going to http:// while displaying the URL in the address box as http://.
  2. The problem with not being logged in after leaving http:// and going to http:// is well understood. The name after "http://" is called the domain name, and cookies (which is how the software knows you're logged in) are stored by domain name. You're now in domain "" instead of domain "" and will have to log in again. Of course, what you should instead do is simply add the "www." to the URL, and then you'll be logged in again.
I'd welcome any explanation for #1. My guess is that my domain registration company is doing me a "favor" by including the shorthand address in the tables it distributes to other Internet servers.

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Message 50 of 304 (202809)
04-26-2005 8:59 PM


Fixed a Bug
Let's see how much time it takes for someone to figure out which one.

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Asgara
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Message 51 of 304 (202811)
04-26-2005 9:05 PM
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04-26-2005 8:59 PM


Re: Fixed a Bug
Well my time is correct now.
Do I win something? Is it made of chocolate?

Asgara
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Message 52 of 304 (202817)
04-26-2005 9:16 PM
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04-26-2005 9:05 PM


EvC Forum Finally Switches to Daylight Savings Time
Asgara writes:
Well my time is correct now.
Obviously I have to fix more obscure bugs or provide more obscure clues!
I fixed this bug because I could only fix the next bug if I fixed this one first, but now I can't remember what the next one was. When I remember that I'll probably remember what I did with the prize. And whether it was made of chocolate!
Folks, the fix for Daylight Savings Time isn't perfect. The board now will switch to and from Daylight Savings Time when the server the board runs on switches. As long as you live in the US, or you live in a region of the world that switches at the same time as the US, then you board will switch at the same time you do. If you live in a region of the world that switches at different times, I think a week earlier and a week later for both England and France for example, then you'll be off for a week or so around the switches. This only affects displayed times, of course. All stored internal times are GMT.
There's some discussion here in the US to dramatically extend DST, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

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Ben!
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Message 53 of 304 (202841)
04-26-2005 10:08 PM
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04-26-2005 9:16 PM


Re: EvC Forum Finally Switches to Daylight Savings Time
Just another reason why I wish Japan observed daylight savings time. Can I enter a bug here for that? Do you have any clout with the Japanese gov't? I don't need the sun rising before 5am, thanks.

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Asgara
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Message 54 of 304 (202842)
04-26-2005 10:08 PM
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04-26-2005 9:16 PM


Re: EvC Forum Finally Switches to Daylight Savings Time

Asgara
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select * from USERS where CLUE > 0
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Message 55 of 304 (202968)
04-27-2005 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by Ben!
04-26-2005 10:08 PM


Re: EvC Forum Finally Switches to Daylight Savings Time
I'll mention this the next time I have lunch with the Japanese prime minister.
In the longer term, I plan to add manual setting/unsetting of Daylight Savings Time to member profiles, and an option to follow the Daylight Savings Time setting of your own computer instead of the server. This latter will have a latency of one access to the board before the setting kicks in. The first time the board is accessed after a change in DST would set a cookie to the new DST setting, the next access would send the cookies new value to the server.
While this is klugey, you can, of course, change your time zone setting to make the time come out correctly.

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Message 56 of 304 (203046)
04-27-2005 3:25 PM
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04-27-2005 10:01 AM


Re: EvC Forum Finally Switches to Daylight Savings Time
I just switched to GMT. I am currently on Central Daylight Time, which is 5 hours behind GMT, even though my clock says 2:25, the board is claiming 8:25 (a 6 hour difference). Perhaps the board thinks that GMT goes on daylight savings time, too?

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Message 57 of 304 (203116)
04-27-2005 6:27 PM
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04-27-2005 3:25 PM


Re: EvC Forum Finally Switches to Daylight Savings Time
I believe you're right, GMT does not do Daylight Savings Time. GMT never changes ahead and backward. I asked about this once before in one thread or another but didn't get an answer, can you verify this is absolutely the case? If so, I'll add this to the bug list. When fixed, the TimeZone line that currently says "Greenwich Mean Time: Dublin, London" would become two lines, one for "Greenwich Mean Time" and another for "Dublin, London".

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Message 58 of 304 (203142)
04-27-2005 7:44 PM
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Re: EvC Forum Finally Switches to Daylight Savings Time
I'm pretty sure that GMT is a colloquial expression for Universal Coordinated Time, which does not do "summer time/daylight savings time". I may be wrong, but if so we can just call it UTC (Universal Coordinated Time or is that Coordinated Universal Time?) instead of GMT. At any rate, I would suggest that since there is an international membership to this forum, maybe UTC should be the default setting (although I vote for calling it GMT).
I just fixed this problem for myself: I just set my personal setting to 1 hour before what the board thinks is GMT. This just makes it another clock to reset when we go on/off DST.
Anyway, sorry for suggesting that you add yet another thing to your to-do list.

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Message 59 of 304 (203472)
04-28-2005 7:59 PM
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04-27-2005 7:44 PM


Re: EvC Forum Finally Switches to Daylight Savings Time
I'm pretty sure that GMT is a colloquial expression for Universal Coordinated Time
More historical significance* than colloquial (according to Kernighan and Ritchie in their book "The C Programming Language" about C and the C standard runtime library). That's why C has a function called gmtime that returns a time value in Coordinated Universal Time.
It is true that GMT/UTC doesn't vary (although the time in Britain changes from it by an hour in the Summer - we call it BST for British Summer Time)
* The historical significance is that us Brits invented a standardised time first and it took the rest of the world a while to catch up

The Tigers roared in Dublin - and I was there.

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Message 60 of 304 (206293)
05-08-2005 11:03 PM


[size=1] dBCode not working
See here, at bottom of message. See "Peek" version also.
Ah, heck - I'll try it right here also:
{This line should be in the size=1 font}
Adminnemooseus
Added by edit: Not working in this message either. It was working before.
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