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Author Topic:   Global Flood Evidence: A Place For Faith to Present Some
Lithodid-Man
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Message 38 of 304 (292295)
03-05-2006 5:18 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Faith
03-05-2006 12:22 AM


Re: Hell on Earth?
Sure, we can talk about all that, AFTER somebody finally acknowledges that the way the layers are made is totally incompatible with the idea of millions of years of deposition.
Faith,
Please explain to me the Flood explanantion for the white cliffs of Dover. This is a 100 meter thick layer of chalk (am not going into the stratigraphy, in reality the deposit represents over 250 m total). Chalk is made up of microscopic calcareous skeletons of a single celled algae called coccolithophores. These still exist today, still bloom and make depositions in the world's oceans. Because they are photosynthetic and their skeletons are opaque to light a massive bloom can only sustain itself for a short time before they all die off (coccolith blooms can be devastating to 'normal' plankton production). Here is a photo:
The blooms make the water too turbid for photosynthesis. Anyway, these massive blooms are sporadic. Deposition (sedimentation) of coccoliths is less than 1 mm per year, simply cannot be any more. So the 100 meter Dover cliffs represent AT LEAST 100,000 years of deposition by any scenario you can imagine.
The only YEC argument I can see is that all of the world's coccoliths during the flood died in one place (ignoring other chalk formations worldwide). Does anyone have a ballpark figure for the volume of chalk in Dover? My calculation for a world-wide maximum (if the entire ocean surface, here the Earth with 22 km diamter added for the water, were to suffer a coccolith bloom) is 510 km^3 per year if coccoliths could deposit at 1 mm/yr (this is twice the deposition rate that has ever been recorded). That is alot, but I suspect far less than needed IF all of the coccoliths were somehow compelled to die in one spot.
This is only one type of sedimentary rock, Faith. YEC's 200 years ago couldn't explain it and became OEC's. Your take?
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Lithodid-Man
Member (Idle past 2958 days)
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From: Juneau, Alaska, USA
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Message 73 of 304 (292605)
03-06-2006 5:26 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by Faith
03-05-2006 11:50 PM


Re: Those layers again
Faith,
No one is ignoring your point. We have all been addressing it. But your point is ridiculous. No flood scenarios can explain the white cliffs of Dover. No ~10,000 year old earth scenarios can explain it. Only slow accumulation over 100's of millenia can explain it, period.
Your point of not having to demonstrate mechanism is just wrong. YOU made the claim that geology refutes uniformitism. It is in your court to show this is correct.

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