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iceage

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Message 61 of 66 (353394)
10-01-2006 2:24 AM

Reply to: Message 58 by Faith
10-01-2006 1:48 AM

Re: Grand Canyon

Where does one get the koolaid you are drinking.

It is not problem with OE deposition . Look the bottom layer was eroded with ribs protuding as is present today. Deposition began with sand finding its way lower parts of the eroded surface. At the same time the protuding ribs eroded and fell into the growing layers of sand.

When you first said you are not prepared to discuss unconformities I was unaware just how unprepared you were. I think it is best not to discuss this anymore.

BTW. If you can visit and post here than you can visit those links. Just cut and paste the url's if you have to.

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Message 62 of 66 (353423)
10-01-2006 10:06 AM

Reply to: Message 61 by iceage
10-01-2006 2:24 AM

Re: Grand Canyon

There is a thread, Message 1 where we are exploring the Grand Canyon from the bottom up. So far we are at message 181 and have not yet made it all the way through the Super Group.

In Message 166 petrophysics is giving us a short picture of what it might have been like during the formation of the Dox level. I would love to see this continue and for you to contribute. Remember, the goal is to step through each level, one at a time until even us dummies understand what went on.

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Message 63 of 66 (353445)
10-01-2006 11:30 AM

Reply to: Message 59 by iceage
10-01-2006 2:12 AM

Assumptions

Troxelso,

Faith is having problems with her computer freezing up. Please do not make negative assumptions unless you have walked a mile in her shoes.

I've had similar problems in the past. I could get into EvC and post, but opening a link would freeze.

So please be understanding and not assume the worst.

Please direct any comments concerning this Admin msg to the Moderation Thread.
Any response in this thread will receive a 24 hour timeout.

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Message 64 of 66 (353504)
10-01-2006 5:47 PM

Reply to: Message 61 by iceage
10-01-2006 2:24 AM

computer limitations on reading links

BTW. If you can visit and post here than you can visit those links. Just cut and paste the url's if you have to.

As PD affirmed, I CANNOT go to links. It isn't the link itself, it's getting there. Whenever I have tried it my computer freezes up or gives me a blue screen that tells me something dire just happened. It takes me half a dozen tries to get the thing booted up in the first place, and then it freezes or crashes a couple or three times when I go online at all. After that, if I don't do anything unusual it may go for some time without freezing up. Sorry, that's just the way it is. I will have a new system sometime next week.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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iceage

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Message 65 of 66 (353514)
10-01-2006 6:37 PM

Reply to: Message 64 by Faith
10-01-2006 5:47 PM

Re: computer limitations on reading links

Sounds like your issue is with your configured DNS servers in your network setting or you have some overactive popup prevention software installed.

The Domain Name Service (DNS) translates domain names to IP numbers. If these are incorrect or the servers that you have entered are down then you will get the behavior you described. When you click on a link your computer cannot translate the domain to an IP. It could be that you can get to because you system has the translation to cached.

A virus can mess with these settings.

You may not need to get a new system. Check with your ISP on what is the correct DNS to use and check on the ones that are configured. If you are using DHCP, where these are set automatically, you can solve this by resetting the connection. This could save you some $$$.

To test this - if you can go to this

http://209.68.18.34/lava_layers.jpg

but not this

http://www.sammcgees.com/lava_layers.jpg

That would be a direct clue that the only problem is that your DNS is misconfigured.

BTW best to cut and paste the url's into your location window to eliminate some problem with popup software preventing the creation of a new page. If the above works but you cannot click on link then some protection software is tweaked a little to paranoid.

Now the admin will banish me to the wilderness for responding. Oh well, I will get more work done that way...

OFF TOPIC - Please Do Not Respond to this message or continue in this vein.

No banishment, but we don't want others to continue with helpful tips in this thread. There is a thread open concerning Faith and her computer.
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Message 66 of 66 (426027)
10-04-2007 8:45 PM

reviving another old thread for new discussions

Posted by TheWay in Message 50

razd writes:

(Message 21)
Tell me, have you ever heard of a flood making a mountain? Can you explain how water could do this?

I highly doubt physics would be on my side if I claimed such a thing. I apologize for not being more specific, as I was referring to the Flood as an event rather than the rainy day most critics think of.

First, I would like to add that water would have came up from the ground and from the air. I don't think I would invoke supernatural physics in the processes of the Flood. Although, I am inclined to suggest that since we have never seen something of the Flood's magnitude it would be hard to test against an actual control model.

genesis8 writes:

11In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

As we can see, the Bible clearly states that there were fountains in the far reaches of the earth and that these were broken up (which could mean a few things, I will return to this later). Also that the windows of heaven were opened. We could assume many things just from this verse, allow me to provide my hypothesis, this is off topic so I will figure out how to make a thread pertain to the basic fundamentals of the Flood; how it could have happened. I hope you will join me.

The question is what the evidence for this happening would look like and whether we can find anything like that in the geological record. What is the process that forms mountains then, complete with all their layers and fossils, different kinds of rocks, etc.

We can look at areas that did have massive, regional floods (the scablands for example), but we don't see any universal evidence.

Channeled Scablands - Wikipedia
NOVA | Mystery of the Megaflood | Explore the Scablands | PBS
(the thread Was there a worldwide flood? talks about these too - good reading)

Your thoughts?

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