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RAZD
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Message 6 of 28 (510483)
05-31-2009 6:06 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Lokins
05-31-2009 11:46 AM


Re: Sexual Selection?
Hi Lokins, and welcome to the fray.
I actually thought of this too. I think what you're getting at is that it's a form of sexual selection?
Correlate the attractiveness of people with what they do. Rock stars, artists, dancers, all attract mates through arts, among them music.
Look at mating behavior in various animals. Some dance, some have songs for mating that are not used the rest of the year, some have displays. These can be related to fitness as healthy and resourceful individuals should be better that sick, malnourished etc individuals.
Appreciation for music doesn't seem at first glance to be directly beneficial to our survival. One thing that my friend suggested is that it could be a sort of side-effect of another trait that we developed. I have trouble thinking of what this trait might be.
Consider that intelligence could be a side-effect of sexual selection for creativity in mating displays, dances and songs - and again compare the attractiveness of people to their apparent intelligence.
Perhaps sex is what has made humans so different from other apes ...
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Message 18 of 28 (541627)
01-04-2010 7:11 PM


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I have listened to music and played various musical instruments during my 52 years. I can be moved by music, I like certain types of music, I dislike certain types of music.
Are there scientific reasons why I have certain preferences or is it more to do with my social upbringing?
DERYN
Yes.
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Message 23 of 28 (541699)
01-05-2010 2:13 PM
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01-05-2010 10:41 AM


Re: Unintended Consequence?
Hi Catholic Scientist,
So selection for intellegence could have brought an appreciation for music with it.
Assuming that we were selected for intelligence rather than music ability ... or (more likely, imho), selection for music (dance and art) under sexual selection lets intelligence come along for the ride.
Which came first eh?
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