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anglagard
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Message 189 of 284 (506313)
04-25-2009 5:54 AM
Reply to: Message 188 by pcver
04-25-2009 4:44 AM


Re: Evolution; information theory; 2nd LOT
pcver writes:
I still do not know how evolutionists can claim evolution is observed to be taking place. Where/How exactly?
Try:
Observed Instances of Speciation
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Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 866 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
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Message 252 of 284 (507240)
05-03-2009 4:33 AM
Reply to: Message 249 by pcver
05-03-2009 12:16 AM


Re: Quantum Gap
Coragyps writes:
Water molecules do exactly that every time if you put them in the photosphere of a hottish star, and don't violate the 2LoT even a little bit.
pcver writes:
I've never contradicted that, have I?
From what I best remember, you have cursed all human effort to understand the universe and through such knowledge feed the poor, heal the sick, and bring peace.
My point was that you used the wrong analogy (water formation) to compare with DNA formation in the first place.
You seem to have a habit of twisting and expanding the context of an argument, a bit at a time. So now you introduce yet another foreign entity -- A hottish star.
This is not very helpful. What are you on about? Formation of water molecules or splitting of water molecules? They are complete opposites.
I don't know what's the point of drifting away from the crux of an argument the way you do.
It is the habit of knowing how mathematics, physics, chemistry, geology, and biology are all mutually supportive, how if one falls to neo-medievalism (or should that be more properly referred to as barbarism, given the desire to destroy both classical and now modern knowledge based upon observation) all fall and billions die unnecessarily.
Taz writes:
I'm one that would look to the contents of a person's argument for his credentials. That said, I'm going to break my rule of thumb there and must ask for your credential in regard to physics and chemistry. What do you have to show to us for us to take your very unsubstantiated word for it?
pcver writes:
No credential really, other than being a logical thinker. You don't have to take my words for it either.
I'm not interested to win a debate. I'm interested in the truth. (So by inference you know I regard evolution theory as untruth)
If you proposition an idea that I agree with logically, then I'd simply do the logical thing -- Accept your idea.
I find it rather fascinating that one would claim to know more about chemistry due to supposedly being a 'logical thinker' than someone with a PhD who has made their living off their expertise in the subject for several decades. Did it ever occur to you that you may actually be in 'over your head?' Such a condition is curable, it is called education. Be it a junior college or a university, or perhaps even that AP high school class, that first semester of chemistry will educate you as to the difference between entropy and enthalpy.
As to being an impartial observer of evidence, perhaps you need to review the meaning of what the terms impartial, evidence, and logical actually mean.
Edited by anglagard, : last sentence next to last paragraph, also add what in last sentence.
Edited by anglagard, : add in to precede over your head
Edited by anglagard, : edit what is in parentheses for clarity
Edited by anglagard, : entropy/enthalpy sentence

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 866 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


Message 254 of 284 (507243)
05-03-2009 5:04 AM
Reply to: Message 253 by Granny Magda
05-03-2009 4:53 AM


Re: Quantum Gap
Granny Magda writes:
Jeez, what is it with engineers and programmers?
Hey wait a minute! My first degree is in geological engineering.
Then again, perhaps my support of the physical and life sciences is in the name.
Maybe it is the 'geo' or maybe it is the 'logical' that prevents such foolishness in that discipline.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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