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THE END OF EVOLUTION?

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Taz
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Message 23 of 284 (491782)
12-21-2008 2:10 AM 		Reply to: Message 6 by LucyTheApe
12-20-2008 2:20 PM

Re: Evolution ended? Not!
LTA writes:
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Evolution is not like every other scientific theory that can be expressed mathematically, so we have no way of checking it's status.
Right... and the germ theory of disease could be mathematically expressed?
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05-02-2009 9:08 PM 		Reply to: Message 245 by pcver
05-02-2009 7:58 PM

Re: Quantum Gap
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Random formation of DNA structure is more analogous to water molecules splitting into hydrogen and oxygen by random chance, (not the other way around like you said).
And of course that would violate the 2LoT.
I'm one that would look to the contents of a person's argument for his credentials. That said, I'm going to break my rule of thumb there and must ask for your credential in regard to physics and chemistry. What do you have to show to us for us to take your very unsubstantiated word for it?
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05-03-2009 2:08 AM 		Reply to: Message 249 by pcver
05-03-2009 12:16 AM

Re: Quantum Gap
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No credential really, other than being a logical thinker. You don't have to take my words for it either.
I'm not interested to win a debate. I'm interested in the truth. (So by inference you know I regard evolution theory as untruth)
If you proposition an idea that I agree with logically, then I'd simply do the logical thing -- Accept your idea.
Ok, if that's how you want to play it.
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I also don't want to show you any of my credential. I'm simply a logical thinker. I'm simply interested in the truth. And the truth is you're full of shit, jesus was a cock sucker (he was fishing for men for goodness sakes), and christianity is an evil that must be wiped of the face of the earth.
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See? I can bullshit just as much as you can. You still want to go down this route or do you actually want to put some substance forward?
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05-03-2009 10:38 PM 		Reply to: Message 257 by Percy
05-03-2009 9:30 AM

Re: Quantum Gap
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I'm a software engineer, and during my entire professional career I've had to live with the apparent reality that a fair number of engineers and programmers, my friends and fellow co-workers, are fertile ground for pseudoscientific claptrap. As near as I can make out, it's not uncommon for them to be savants of a sort who possess amazing intuitions that along with their training enable them to solve complex problems. But somehow missing from their makeup is any sense that even outside of their professional life ideas must still be anchored in reality to have any validity. This enables them to believe all sorts of nonsense while still able to be not just competent but even amazing engineers and programmers.
Four of my siblings are engineers. One thing I have noticed about them is they are very arrogant about things in life. When it comes to their arrogance in their opinion, it's not just about science. I sometimes want to bang my head against the wall when I talk to them about politics.
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05-04-2009 10:36 PM 		Reply to: Message 259 by pcver
05-04-2009 6:53 AM

Re: Bye, bye. It's the end of Evolution
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WOW...Wow... I realise that I must have stumbled upon a site of worship for the faithful followers of a supernaturalism known as Evolutionism.
Give me a break! You came here claiming this is logical and that is logical without actually giving us anything of substance. All I did was used the exact same method of debate you used: give unsupported assertions and call them "logical" without any further explanation.
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The short time that you have been here, you've waved around the 2LOT more times than President Bush said "we're making progress" in his televised debate with Senator Kerry. Would you like to explain to us the 2LOT? I don't mean just stuff you could copy and paste off the internet. I want to see you explain in detail why DNA molecules can't form because of 2LOT. I have a background in physics and chemistry and am more than willing to read through all the technical stuff you have. If it gets too technical for my blood, I'm sure one of our resident scientists can sort through your very technical explanation.
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