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Author Topic:   Human Evolution (re: If evolved from apes, why still apes?)
skepticfaith
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Message 58 of 128 (453278)
02-01-2008 6:59 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by NosyNed
12-23-2007 7:42 PM


Re: Congratulations to Kakip!!
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This question is used as an example of the most utterly, obviously stupid questions that creationists ask. If one had the very tiniest amount of a clue about what the evolutionary model was about and one thought for just a small moment it would be obvious that this is very, very dumb.

I dont think this really as dumb as you claim beacause:
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If your parents have children how come they are still around and/or if you exist do your cousins have to die?

This is not even an answer!
Quite clearly, the layman will always be ignorant of genetics but is not understanding how come the proposed ancestor resembles the creature still alive together.

So the question is if we evolved so much from some apelike creature how come the chimps we see today are not much different from this proposed ancestor?

I guess the answer is they have changed too, but not as much and certainly did not evolve the big brain we have now.

Here is something that I always wondered - is it plausible to think that another creature alive now can evolve into a new creature given a few million years to a creature more intelligent than a human ? Assume that the human race went extinct today ..


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skepticfaith
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Message 61 of 128 (453313)
02-01-2008 7:57 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by molbiogirl
02-01-2008 7:12 PM


Re: Congratulations to Kakip!!
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And the answer is: Chimps are radically different from the common ancestor. As are we.

How do you know this? Where is the proof of this?

The reply below yours says otherwise too.

Where can I find information on evolution of Chimps?

The 1% thing became 5-7 % last time I checked - but this does not tell the whole story anyway.


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skepticfaith
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Message 62 of 128 (453314)
02-01-2008 8:02 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by bluegenes
02-01-2008 7:39 PM


Re: Congratulations to Kakip!!
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think it's plausible, yes, although if you'd said "tens of millions of years" then it would be even more likely. If a species happened to take the road of rapidly increasing intelligence immediately after our extinction, then a few million years could be enough.

How long did it take from ancestor of human and chimp to human?

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The fact that ourselves and the dolphins seem to have greatly increased brain size and intelligence separately argues in favour of your suggestion happening eventually.

How would dolphins manipulate things though ?
I mean we use our hands - I can't imagine a dolphin being able to build something - what kind of adaptation will it need to make ?

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