Does evidence of transitional forms exist ? (Hominid and other)

Thank you,Very thorough post!

Great post Sharon. Mind if I quote your post (especially the email from Thewissen) in other forums?

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Great post Sharon. Mind if I quote your post (especially the email from Thewissen) in other forums?Sharon: Please do.

Here's something that's just as good as being able to get into a time machine and go back a few million years -- though the "vestigials" are in our own day and time.SIRENIAN EVOLUTION: Manatees... Sea Cows... Dugongs.
It's the same process with whales, land to sea.Some of the manatee have lost their elephant toenails, and others still have them.I do not know how AiG and the creationists would explain away the phenomena of sea cows with elephant toenails on their flippers. (Along with all the other shared features in common with elephants).I finished merging our whale evolution article into a site, along with the museum photos, including the page I have been working on with Sea Cows (though I'm waiting on Ed Babinski to compile his history on the common ancestry between elephant and sirenians).Hans Thewissen has added information to his website on Sirenian fossils.
http://darla.neoucom.edu/DEPTS/ANAT/Thewissen/We obtained permission from PBS' Reading Rainbow to use clips from their episode of Sam the Sea Cow.It's available under Special Featured Articles on the site.
Sirenian Evolution
(Manatee, Sea Cow, Dugong)
Sirenians and Elephants are evolved from a common ancestor. Like whales, sirenians returned to the water. Though hind limbs on whales may be rare and difficult to witness, many sirenians (not all) still retain vestigial toenails like their elephant cousins, and share other traits in common with modern elephants. Includes commentary between LeVar Burton and Dr. Mark Lowe, Veterenary Science. Contains images courtesy of Reading Rainbow, PBS Television. (GPN/Nebraska Educational Telecommunications and WNED-TV, Buffalo NY).http://whales.creation-science.usThis message has been edited by Sharon357, 12-04-2004 10:18 PM

give me one evidence Lucy couldnot walk up right .Her knee joint /jaws /half man ape structures.

Er, not sure what you are saying here.Please elaborate.

I am saying that if australopithecus had an anatomical structure suitable for bipedal walking .Give me one evidence that it was ancestor of man.

I am saying that if australopithecus had an anatomical structure suitable for bipedal walking .Give me one evidence that it was not ancestor of man.

You can also edit posts instead of reposting.

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I am saying that if australopithecus had an anatomical structure suitable for bipedal walking .

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This is a sentence fragment.You made an "if" statement. Now you need to complete the sentence with a "therefore" statement.

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Give me one evidence that it was ancestor of man.

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What kind of evidence would you expect an ancestor of Homo Sapiens Sapiens to have?What kind of evidence would you accept? Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given.

Not sure where you are going with this, as you have barely stated a thesis for your argument.If you want to discuss Lucy in specific, including the knee joints, jaw features (that are related to upright walking how?) and "half man ape" structures we have room on the Lucy - fact or fraud? to discuss the features that are specific to Lucy.As I recall it was the knee joint that showed she walked in a bipedal gait.If you want to discuss that relationship of various hominid lines to the direct ancestry of Homo sapiens that is a different matter.If that gets too off-topic here and is not covered by any other topic we can always start a new one (the idea being that the threads stay focused on specific topics for greater clarity ... the practice is frequently something else).Welcome to the fray.Enjoy.

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Are you teaching me rules.Hey you are
escaping from the truth.I want an evidence proving australopithecus wasnot man ancestors.

I dont' think you'll get that -- the evidence points towards ancestry not away. No, just commenting on why you are not that easy to understand when all you post are short fragments of thoughts.Enjoy.

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Are you teaching me rules.Hey you are

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Well, if you want to communicate effectively, then writing in sentences that are understandable and complete might be a good place to start.I don't understand what you are trying to ask or say.

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escaping from the truth.I want an evidence proving australopithecus wasnot man ancestors.

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Which species of A.?

australopithecus afarensis which was discovered in Hadar in Ethiopia 40 percent of the fossil the other 60 percent was missing .Anyway the fossil anatomical structures proved that it walked up right.You creationists say that it was an ape species not different from other apes but this discovery proved that your claims are wrong.