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mark24 Member (Idle past 5194 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: What do transitionals have to do with apes, per se? Can you explain why horse embryos have 3 toes, but the adult horse rarely does (the splints have sidetoes)? A true vestigial trait. Curiously, the fossil record shows a slow reduction in toes/ toe functionality in horses. Can you explain this remarkable corroboration? Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"What do transitionals have to do with apes, per se?"
--Well 'ape-like' creatures, the question of human ancestry (transitionals). "? Can you explain why horse embryos have 3 toes, but the adult horse rarely does (the splints have sidetoes)? A true vestigial trait. Curiously, the fossil record shows a slow reduction in toes/ toe functionality in horses. Can you explain this remarkable corroboration?"--Reference? ------------------
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lbhandli Inactive Member |
How do you know this is your response without seeing the evidence?
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"How do you know this is your response without seeing the evidence?"
--I don't know that this would be my response exactly, I am asking for the examples so we can come to that. I was stating that this is one of the problems that I have seen argued with some transitionals. ------------------
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5194 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
Science & Earth History, Strahler, 1999 p443. See also polydactyly by atavism . Gould, 1983, pp. 177-179.
http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~lindsay/creation/horse_growth.html Foetal Growth Of A Horse Foot.
Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with. [This message has been edited by mark24, 02-19-2002] [This message has been edited by mark24, 02-19-2002]
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lbhandli Inactive Member |
quote: ...my argument WOULD END UP BEING If this is simply your inability to write clearly again, so be it.
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Pete Inactive Member |
quote: You're in a debate against evolution and you DON'T know of a referencefor one of the most talked about evidences FOR evolution ???? Have you actually read anything about evolution ? Sorry if that's a bit strong, but I'm incredulous that someonedebating about evolution would need to ask for a reference to the reduction in toes in horse evolution.
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Jeff Inactive Member |
quote: TrueCreation, Please examine the very first post, which established this thread.The evidence HAS been posted. Once you have viewed the images I took the trouble to post, please tell us what you see, perhaps a brief analysis. No one expects you to post a dissertation on these fossils - just look at them and tell us how it compares to known, modern organisms. (surreal transition to a Law & Order episode) Jack McCoy: -"Your Honor, permission to treat the witness as hostile."Judge: - You may proceed. Is Turkana-boy, the specimen I posted a: a.) fully modern human?b.) fully modern chimpanzee? c.) fully modern Suzuki Quad Runner ATV? d.) fully modern Salsa recipe? ...and...perhaps a few comments as to why you chose your response. No scientific authentication is required. I am soliciting your opinion. Kind Regards, jeff
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bkwusa Inactive Member |
i was wondering... is there any genetic link from the discovered humonoids to the modern humans?
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: In what form? DNA comparisons? It is very rare for genetic material to be preserved so probably not.... However what is noticeable as we observe the natural world is that the closer an organism resembles us the less genetic differences there are between us.... As the "humonoids" (sic) have morphologies that lie between human and chimpanzee (our closest genetic relatives) It would seem that the inference of a simiar genetic position (between Chimp and human) would be valid....
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bkwusa Inactive Member |
i was thinking somethink along dna test to compare them to modern humans like they have done with the Neandeatal http://www.archaeology.org/online/news/dna.html here is a link to the finding to the neanderthal study... i was wondering if there was any possibility they did the same with the other found fossils...
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Quetzal Member (Idle past 5871 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
quote: Here's my absolute all-time favorite quiz, TC. Why don't you tell US which one's ape, near-ape, human, near-human? Good luck.
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Jeff Inactive Member |
Any response from the gallery ?
What in the heck are these things we've posted here ?Does ANYONE in the Creationist camp have an answer ? How will we EVER explain them ? Kind Regards, jeff
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: From your scource: "For the first time, DNA of a premodern human has been recovered." Answers your question if this is the first bit of viable DNA recovered the chances that they haven`t performed any other comparisons approaches unity.....
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Quetzal Member (Idle past 5871 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
quote: Nah, there won't be any response. Anytime anyone posts any concrete evidence for any scientific point, the creationists simply wait until the post slides off the bottom of the page. Witness my apparently now-defunct attempt to engage Cobra in a substantive argument on HIS OWN THEORY!!!. As was pointed out in the "Debate" thread (albeit for different reasons), the debate between science and creationism will never be resolved: but only because the creationists refuse to debate when cornered...
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