Why are there no human apes alive today?

How come the chimpanzees and the orangutangs and the gorillas survived untill this day practically staying the same shape?

They didn't, as far as the limited fossil record shows. And gorillas don't look too much like their cousins the chimps, anyway.

In this regards the National Academy Of Science , very wrong for appointing him as a fellow.

OT anecdote: at the Texas Board of Education hearings on biology textbooks in 2003, one of the anti-science board members referred to the creationist/ID luminary William Dembski's credentials: "He's a member of the American Association for the Advancement of Science!" The fifty or so of us there who had also paid our $129 for a year's subscription to Science and a membership in AAAS got a giggle out of that.

Wells ain't an NAS member.

I hope you will agree if I say that you are advanced than than them in terms of those things.

See the italics? Could you feed yourself and avoid poisonous plants and snakes in the highland forests of New Guinea? I couldn't. Could you have kept yourself alive for a year in inland Namibia, or here in West Texas, in 1850? I couldn't have.

You and I aren't even remotely as "advanced" as a python is at squeezing piglets to death.

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"The wretched world lies now under the tyranny of foolishness; things are believed by Christians of such absurdity as no one ever could aforetime induce the heathen to believe." - Agobard of Lyons, ca. 830 AD

Saber toothed cat, was a cat. They are here today. Different teeth do not make a different kind.

But hairyness does make bonobos and humans "different kinds?" How does that work, Mazzy? Bonelike structures don't matter, but thickness of hair does? That seems a little arbitrary to me. And yes, I'm well aware that bonobos and humans have more dissimilarites than hair. But then, Smilodon and my kitty Tomasz have quite a few of those, too. How do you pick what trait to use?

Mazzy:

Bovinae
Cephalophinae
Hippotraginae
Antilopinae
Caprinae
Reduncinae
Aepycerotinae
Peleinae
Alcelaphinae
Pantholopinae
Hominidae

These above are representative of kinds. A cow is Bovinae and a horse is from the family Equidae. Gorillas and humans are Hominidae.

- Fixed it for you. You're welcome.

Mazzy, to repeat myself in referring to your post #346:

Mazzy:
Bovinae
Cephalophinae
Hippotraginae
Antilopinae
Caprinae
Reduncinae
Aepycerotinae
Peleinae
Alcelaphinae
Pantholopinae
Hominidae

These above are representative of kinds. A cow is Bovinae and a horse is from the family Equidae. Gorillas and humans are Hominidae.

- Fixed it for you. You're welcome.

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Do you have any argument whatever to counter my addition to your list?

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"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken

Great, lets have some examples.

The Caledonian Crow, who has been referred to a couple of times here:

http://www.sciencemag.org/site/feature/data/crow/
leads to the paper announcing this ability, and a great little movie of the behavior.

And humans are apes; not all apes are human. Chimps are apes; not all apes are chimps. Beagles are dogs; - you get the picture.

And welcome back, Lucy! I haven't seen you in a while!

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"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken

We have 4 limbs and a head in common appearance and not much more.

PuhlEEEZe, Mazzy! Really? Chimps resemble humans no more than they resemble quolls or frogs? Those have "4 limbs and a head," too, the last I looked.

Are you so blinded by your religion that you can't even admit the plain fact that your "apes" and humans are a tiny bit more of a "common appearance" than either shares with non-primate quadrupeds?

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"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken

Look at the skulls pictures in the articles. They look absolutely nothing like a human skull at all.

Bullshit. You have not looked yourself.

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"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken