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Author Topic:   Why are there no human apes alive today?
jar
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Message 549 of 1075 (622344)
07-02-2011 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 548 by LucyTheApe
07-02-2011 12:58 PM


Re: Apes have ventured into space and animals that have built automatons.
So at least some apes are human according to you. But you're Great, hey? Just like Darwin et al were the highest form of animal; the apex of the evolutionary process.
What place does your a priori " All humans are Primates." have in this debate? Those things are for your personal world view.
The topic is "Why are there no human apes alive today?"
The answer is that there are human apes alive today. It's not a matter of world view, but rather of fact.
I've already explained I'm talking about deductive reasoning not induction. All living animals learn from experience, that's instinct. I haven't read all the posts in the thread, but I will.
Is there any differences between the abilities of humans and apes; and if so what are they, in your opinion?
Again, humans are apes. Humans have greater dexterity in their hands than most of the other apes, have developed some tools that the other apes have not developed, but the differences are more quantitative than qualitative.
And inductive reasoning is NOT simply instinct, That is just a silly absurd statement.
AbE:
And to be human you must be of the species Homo sapiens sapiens.
Edited by jar, : add to be or not to be.

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jar
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Message 557 of 1075 (622352)
07-02-2011 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 555 by Mazzy
07-02-2011 3:02 PM


Re: Apes have ventured into space and animals that have built automatons.
Mankind was created in the image of God and therefore is able to comprehend such things as an afterlife and salvation. This is something an ape cannot do.
And your supporting evidence for that is ...?

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jar
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Message 585 of 1075 (622391)
07-02-2011 9:17 PM
Reply to: Message 584 by Mazzy
07-02-2011 9:11 PM


Re: Apes have ventured into space and animals that have built automatons.
A kind refers to the initial creation of God and its' decendants.
Which is totally without content, worthless and utterly *** until you provide us god's list of the initial created critters.
AbE:
And Bariminology is certainly not science and anyone claiming it is science is quite simply a liar. When you start out by saying some book written by unknown authors thousands of years ago must be considered as over riding reality, you are NOT doing science.
Edited by jar, : add information on Bariminology.

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jar
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Message 590 of 1075 (622397)
07-02-2011 9:47 PM
Reply to: Message 586 by Mazzy
07-02-2011 9:22 PM


Mazzy, stop posting falsehoods.
Do not foget that the Neanderthal was your ape man for a long time untill he 'poofed' into humanity with the Neanderthal Genome Project......now there is magic and hand waving if ever I have seen it!!!
Homo neanderthalensis was named in 1863, one hundred and forty three years before the Neanderthal genome project.
Poof, there goes yet another off your false assertions.
Edited by jar, : fix bolding

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jar
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Message 620 of 1075 (622448)
07-03-2011 8:47 AM
Reply to: Message 592 by Mazzy
07-02-2011 10:18 PM


Re: Mazzy, stop posting falsehoods.
I doubt there will be any embarrassments that I will find hard to swallow.
Sure there were early depictions that showed Neanderthal as a hairy ape man, mostly because there was still many folk that thought the Adam and Eve story was more than just a fable and that we were still very *** about them and their time.
But we have learned much over the last 150 years, and that is how science is different from the fantasy that is Creationism.
Science learns, it discards ideas that are shown to be wrong.
But Adam and Eve simply never existed.

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jar
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Message 665 of 1075 (622942)
07-07-2011 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 664 by DBlevins
07-07-2011 12:36 PM


dates change
I think a bigger problem is that Science is self-correcting.
A good example is the issue of what science says the split dates were between two given species. Of course, those dates have varied over time as we learn more and more. As new discoveries are made our understanding increases and so things such as dates get adjusted.
I reality, that is why Science will almost always be more accurate than any religious based system.

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jar
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Message 769 of 1075 (623368)
07-09-2011 7:09 PM
Reply to: Message 768 by Mazzy
07-09-2011 7:03 PM


Unfortunately for Mazzy
Mazzy writes:
If you wish to put much weight on this kind of evidence and other genomic evidence such as ERV's, then you go ahead and do so. I feel it is worth little weight if any. Rather I would believe in the creation by a powerful being that created or caused the singularity and possibly the multiple dimensions required to support such a theory and Big Bang. There is no end to His power and He certainly could have caused the coalescence of kinds into being if He so chose to do so.
There is actually genomic evidence and ERVs, while there is NO evidence of your imagined creator.

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