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Author Topic:   why is the lack of "fur" positive Progression for humans?
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Message 100 of 202 (484958)
10-03-2008 5:28 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by arrogantape
10-03-2008 5:03 PM


If Macaques are smart enough to use aqueous food who can say Ramidus and Afarensis weren't?

Even if Ramidus & Afarensis did use aqueous food it still wouldn't make them aquatic, just land creatures who "fished" for food.


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Message 114 of 202 (508602)
05-14-2009 11:34 PM
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05-14-2009 9:38 PM


Re: I'm Baaaaaack
arrogantape writes:

What's more these small people had very long flat feet. These feet necessitates a high gait with a slap down foot. Don't tell me Forensis hiked to those islands on those..... um..... flippers.

How do you know that they didn't evolve the foot shape after getting to Indonesia. Off Topic anyway.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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Message 127 of 202 (508736)
05-15-2009 9:06 PM
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05-15-2009 8:25 PM


Re: A simple question ... dimorphism
arrogantape writes:

I don't think claiming we all have just as much hair as chimp is constructive in this debate. Having peach fuzz is what makes us look naked. In the water, the peach fuzz has negligable drag. Olympian swimmer have noted faster times swimming nude.

Except all humans don't have "Peach Fuzz" Some humans particularly Northern & Central European Have quite a bit more than humans from other areas. I wouldn't call the body hair, that I have, peach fuzz.
Dark hair everywhere except the palms of my hands and the bottoms of my feet. If I need an EKG, the medical people have to bring out a razor to get rid of some of the hair to get a good contact.

Edited by bluescat48, : missing /


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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Message 129 of 202 (508740)
05-15-2009 9:22 PM
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05-15-2009 9:16 PM


Re: A simple question ... dimorphism
Question to RAZD

What part of my comment are you referring to?


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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Message 135 of 202 (508758)
05-16-2009 1:19 AM
Reply to: Message 132 by arrogantape
05-15-2009 10:16 PM


Re: A simple question ... dimorphism
quote:
Was he furry, like a chimp? Or was he finely peach fuzzed. This is a no brainer.

Where is your evidence that Habilis wasn't hairy?


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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Message 139 of 202 (508837)
05-16-2009 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by arrogantape
05-16-2009 11:40 AM


Re: A simple question ... dimorphism
quote:
H Habilis migrated by water to far shores. So says the science community.

Where does it say by swimming? Ever heard of a raft?


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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Message 141 of 202 (508849)
05-16-2009 5:41 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by arrogantape
05-16-2009 5:35 PM


Re: A simple question ... dimorphism
arrogantape writes:

Jumping into and diving under the water is a very good defense against land carnivores.

Yeah, providing the water is not infested with crocs & sharks.

arrogantape writes:

but weaving sea going rafts is going to have to wait for the polynesians.

So are you saying that they swam from Africa to Borneo?

Edited by bluescat48, : Added 2d comment


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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bluescat48
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Message 144 of 202 (508880)
05-17-2009 1:45 AM
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05-16-2009 6:24 PM


Re: A simple question ... dimorphism
arrogantape writes:

Handy Man was surely keen for a little brain fellow. but he was no captain.

Now one last question, where is the evidence that habilis ever left Africa.

William R. Leonard Food for Thought, Dec 2002 writes:

The evolution of H. erectus in Africa 1.8 million yeares ago also marked the third turning point in human evolution: the initial movement of hominids out of Africa. Until recently, the locations and ages of known fossil sites suggested that early homo stayed put for a few hundred thousand years before venturing out of the motherland ans slowly fanning out into the rest of the Old World. Earlier work hinted that improvements in tool technology around 1.4 million years ago--namely, the advent of the Acheulean hand ax--allowed homimids to leave Africa. But new discoveries indicate that H. erectus hit the ground running, so to speak. Rutgers University geochronologist Carl Swisher III and his colleages have shown that the earliest H. erectus sites outside of Africa, which are in Indonesia and the Republic of Georgia, date to between 1.8 million and 1.7 million years ago.

nowhere does it state that h. habilis ever left Africa. A map inclued with the article shows the route taken by H. erectus
but shows that H habilis stayed in the area between Olduvai Gorge and Lake Turkana.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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Message 150 of 202 (509084)
05-18-2009 1:46 PM
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05-18-2009 11:32 AM


Re: woodland forest apes and bareness selection
arrogantape writes:

It is not only long, it is wide as well and totally flat. That is a ridiculous adaptation for land use.

Funny Bears get along on land fine on Wide flat feet so do humans with bilateral pes platus (flat feet).


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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Message 152 of 202 (509091)
05-18-2009 5:08 PM
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05-18-2009 4:01 PM


Re: woodland forest apes and bareness selection
arrogantape writes:

Homo floresiensis, would not have got far.

What evidence, might I ask, do you have?


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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Message 168 of 202 (509668)
05-23-2009 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 167 by arrogantape
05-23-2009 12:41 PM


Re: The Question Is…
h Floresiensis swam to the Island. That is a long swim, and not one for novices. Since there has been occupation on Flores for 800,000 years some early hominid made the swim.

Could you provide any credible evidence that florensis swam to flores from Africa?


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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Message 171 of 202 (509672)
05-23-2009 2:57 PM
Reply to: Message 170 by arrogantape
05-23-2009 1:34 PM


I agree that it was a migration what I am asking is where is evidence of swimming?


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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Message 173 of 202 (509696)
05-23-2009 11:09 PM
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05-23-2009 9:13 PM


The evidence is that it swam to Flores Island.

What evidence all you are saying is that they swam there? What evidence that they didn't walk there over the course of 20,000 years. Flat feet or no flat feet.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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