why DID we evolve into humans?

My 'citation style' is just a list of authors that I've read, who have written on the subject. Sorry for the confusion!I'll provide some links to pubmed / amazon.com for articles / books that I've read. I wasn't sure what you'd be interested in, so I tried to summarize a lot in as little time as possible.As for your idea on this comparison... I totally agree! Actually, while brainstorming ideas together for her Masters' thesis, I suggested to my girlfriend (who is a student interpreter interested in the cognitive aspects of interpretation) that MANY things are like interpreting--and dance with a partner is ONE OF THE ONES ON THE LIST! So.. cool. There were others on the list.. I can check it out later.I have to bolt for now; I'll be back around 5 hours from now, and I'll put up the links. I'm glad to see there's something that caught your interest. If you're feeling impatient, I would suggest doing a google search for an author, and travelling to his homepage. I'm constantly doing that, searching for free articles And just as a note... a LOT of the interpreting literature is fairly difficult to get ahold of.Thanks!
Ben

Ben,I'm not impatient at all. I'm a slow thinker prone to mulling by degrees for years in the case of these issues about dancing. That is a good tip on finding free articles on researchers home pages, thanks.Are you at all interested in synesthesia? I've read some speculation that it's that aspect of the brain that makes art, even language possible. I've toyed with the idea that dancing expressively or musically involves an auditory kinesthetic synesthesia.Many social dancers keep acquiring new technique (steps or moves) and refining it. I'm trying to find language and ways to get them to connect to the feeling quality of music and move expressively. This has led me into aesthetics a bit and the notion of phrases as a way of looking at feelings. Movement is phrased. Linguistics is phrased, music is phrased, and dancing should be phrased.Manfred Clynes' work with sentics is one attempt to figure out why music conveys feelings as it does. Another question I have is why so many of us humans enjoy tragedies, sad love songs, etc.Well, I've just did a broad sketch of some of the things I've been considering in the last few years. If any of this interests you respond at your leisure, no need for you to push yourself on any of this. I appreciate what you've shared already.thanks,lfen

This "muscle memory" is also a major factor in martial arts; well, its present in all physical activities but martial artists are conscious of it. Dancers are too to a lesser extent. I'm wary of thinking this is a high-level intellectual function, though, becuase I'd expect it to be part of ther learning process of nearly all animals.

I'm not sure what in my post made you think I'm calling "muscle memory" a high-level intellectual function. All vertibrate animals that I've read about have all of the same basic 'pieces' (premotor & motor cortex, cerebellum, subcortical structure, midbrain, spine).So, in other words, I agree.

lfen,Sorry, sometimes I speak to strangers like I do to friends. I didn't mean to call you impatient at all; what I meant to say is, if you're interested in investigating before I get back, here's a suggestion on how you can proceed without me. I use 'impatient' as this kind of synonym all the time...with my friends. Sorry about that.Anyway, I slacked off today (well, not really; I proof-read Chapter 1 of my girlfriend's thesis). Thanks for the note; I'll post some info soon, but I won't worry about getting it done RIGHT NOW.Oh, and I didn't really understand most of the concepts that you spoke about; I'm interested to look them up and find out what they refer to. I'm looking forward to talking with you more.Ben

Ben,Sounds like you got some real work done. I'd guess your girlfriend is happy to have made some progress on her thesis.I wasn't sure what you were familiar with so just sketched an outline. Go ahead and ask me to amplify anything that interests you.lfen

lfen,Nelson Cowen:

Models of Working Memory (Miyake)

Cowan's Homepage

Paul Verhaeghen:

Verhaeghen's homepage

The specific article he summarized at the ICWM is unpublished; ask me to mail it to you if you want.

Hal Pashler:

Pashler's homepage

Simultaneous Interpreting:

Interpreting Studies Reader

Here's some links; I would suggest browsing people's homepage for publications that sound interesting to you. That's how I've read the articles written by them. I've done so fairly unsystematically, so ... I struggled to get an actual list of references.Also, you can search http://www.ScienceDirect.com for 'practice effect(s)'; that will get you some good papers as well. This is my girlfriend's major interest...Hope this helps some.Ben

Last I heard, offspring are created through the mating of each species. Apes still mate with apes and humans have always mated with humans. Dogs mate with dogs, birds mate with birds. So how in the heck can humans and apes be intermingled unless you're implying bestiality which still cannot produce a fertilized egg between the 2? So why do evolutionists do this?

I think the question is - why do you refuse to listen when people correct your misunderstandings?I suspect you're not long for this forum. Apparently you're used to a considerably less-disciplined form of dialogue. Christianforums.com, perhaps?

So where are the primates today who created us? If they died out, then why haven't apes or humans died out? Thank you.

Hey Carico,Think of it this way. Many americans are descended from irish people. But if that's the case, how come there are still irish people?It's a dumb question because it assumes incorrect premisses. That specieas A or B had to die out in order for species C to have evolved from A/B.

Sorry but you actually proved my point. Irish people still exist so why do primates not still exist? And have they ever been found to begin with, or do they still just exist in people's imaginations? Thank you.

Primates do still exist, humans are primates along with gorillas, chimps, bonobos, lemurs, baboons etc.This message has been edited by DrJones*, 12-12-2005 01:01 PM

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If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
*not an actual doctor

No one has answered any of my questions in a simple straight-forward manner without contradicting himself. Instead, the topics of the threads in which I've posted, have been changed to talking about Carico. This is not only biased and flaming, it is off-topic. So if people would stick to the topics at hand and either answer my questions simply, or refute them without contradicting themselves, then we would all be able to stay on topic. Thank you.

So the primates that bred humans are still around. Is that correct? If so, I've been told by other evolutionists that they died out which is why the "survival of the fittest" theory was instituted. So which is it?And if they are still around, can they breed with humans? If not, then when did they stop doing this and why? And if they can't breed with humans, then how can we be their descendants?And thirdly, why did they suddenly stop breeding offspring that turn into humans? Thank you.