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We're Really Chimps???

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01-16-2005 1:19 AM 		Reply to: Message 1 by TheLiteralist
01-15-2005 11:38 PM

...no.
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we've known for a long time that human beings and chimpanzees are closely related. but not THAT close.
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however, i've heard some talk from creationists who seek to define the word "kind" in such a way that neanderthals and modern humans are basically the same thing. such a broad margin would, of course, also include chimpanzees, which i doubt they'd group with humans.
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and there are scientists that think the chimps should be classed in Homo rather than Pan family.
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Chimps Belong on Human Branch of Family Tree, Study Says
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really? that's interesting. i would think that if there were, they'd still have to have branched off rather far back, since the hips are so fundamentally different.
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01-17-2005 5:22 AM 		Reply to: Message 21 by RAZD
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Re: Homo\Pan chimps
Certainly Bonobos would qualify based on their sexual behavior alone
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actually, i'm of the opinion that their sexual behavior and society is far more advanced than humanity. they don't fight, from what i hear.
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01-17-2005 3:51 PM 		Reply to: Message 47 by RAZD
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bonobos
unfortunately, maybe: they are on the brink of extinction.
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really? that's kind of sad.
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01-18-2005 11:55 PM 		Reply to: Message 62 by RAZD
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Re: bonobos
that breaks my heart.
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here i am with these idealistic notions about how a lot of fucking around will fix everything, and we got and kill them all off? how lame of us.
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