Phat writes:
But all you are doing is turning Christianity into a humanist philosophy.
You, of course, will successfully argue that Jesus pushed the same agenda.
And as you said, Jesus did push the same charge and challenge. But Christianity is far more than just that. There are also the belief systems, the dogma, the ritual, the writings all the various trappings people have added over the years.
What I try to show is that Christianity don't just fit on a bumper sticker.
Phat writes:
Phat writes:
There needs to be a consensus on what God we are worshiping and which God we choose to market.
jar writes:
Nonsense.
We need to throw God away.
Thus legitimizing a humanist agenda and claiming its what Jesus really taught. You can call it Christianity if you like, but its simply just humanism.
No Phat, it is not just simple humanism although that would be a great result if it actually happened.
What I say is we need to be honest about what the evidence shows. No one has a clue about what might happen after death, of whether or not there is some afterlife. No one has a clue what GOD, if GOD exists is really like.
BUT we can have an idea about what this life is like and about how to make this life better for as many as possible; so I suggest we should concentrate on those things where me might actually be able to speak intelligently and where might actually be able to effect outcomes.
Christianity is a Path and one with some basic beliefs. But we need to recognize that belief and knowledge are not synonymous.