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Phat
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Message 178 of 185 (832174)
04-30-2018 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 177 by ringo
04-30-2018 11:56 AM


Re: Is It On God or On Us?
I suppose you would argue that our needs are the primary concern. My only argument concerning Christianity as a humanist philosophy is that God is not even needed as part of it all. In my opinion, "good" religions involve God...not simply humans doing for other humans.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith

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Phat
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Message 180 of 185 (832177)
04-30-2018 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 179 by ringo
04-30-2018 12:13 PM


Re: Is It On God or On Us?
I believe that we need God. Who the heck is gonna bail me out when I fail???

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith

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Phat
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Message 183 of 185 (835037)
06-16-2018 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 181 by ringo
04-30-2018 12:43 PM


Re: Is It On God or On Us?
Phat writes:
I believe that we need God.
ringo writes:
For what?
For the same reason that we would need a sherpa to guide us up Mt.Everest. Or anywhere we go that we are unfamiliar with...there are those who have gone before us to guide us.
Jesus went before us mentally and emotionally...He has been through trials and tribulations that no amount of psychiatry nor medications could minimize.
Of course, it is up to you how you interpret the story.
Some think the story only shows a good teacher showing us how it is done.
As if we ourselves were meant to travel that cold dark path through the valley of death alone.
I think otherwise.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith

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