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Topic: Relativity is wrong...
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Parasomnium
Member Posts: 2224 Joined: 07-15-2003
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Eppur si muove!
The seasons are explained by Sun's orbit. In winter it is far from us, in summer it is closer to us. Do you realize that this means that, to believe this, you must concede that the earth moves after all? If the sun's orbit around the earth explains the seasons, it means it orbits the earth in one year. Yet we see the sun rise and set every day. The only explanation for that must be that the earth rotates on it's own axis every 24 hours. Or, "eppur si muove", as our old friend Galileo would have it. (Although not quite the way he meant it.)
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.
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Parasomnium
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Re: Eppur si muove!
Catholic Scientist writes: It just goes to show that instead of actually thinking his position through, he's just parroting anti-science websites and playing the "prove it" game. Yes. Not only is his position contrary to observed facts, it's also internally inconsistent. It would be interesting to see him wriggle his way out of this one. ABE: although Rahvin does a good job of it... Edited by Parasomnium, : No reason given.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.
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Parasomnium
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Again: eppur si muove...
Smooth Operator writes: The best explanation for gravity yet, that I accept, comes from Nikola Tesla. It's called the "Dynamic Theory of Gravity". The reason why it is so good is because it works equally on macro and micro scale. Meaning, it's the unified field theory. Something that relativity and quantum mechanich still have to achive. To bad he never got to publish his theory, but we can certainly gleen what he meant in his public speeches. And judging by his inventions, we can say that his theoretic background was at least as good. http://peswiki.com/...edia:Tesla's_Dynamic_Theory_of_Gravity A quick glance behind that link revealed this snippet:
peswiki writes: Tesla knew every "ponderable body" had an electrical content, and as such, proportionally interacted with the surrounding aether. The earth is like a charged sphere hurling through space (thus a current, hence magnetic field), around the sun powered by it's primary rays (and giant electric currents along "frozen magnetic lines of force", according to the works of Hannes Alfven mentioned in Lehrner's "The Big Bang Never Happened" ISBN 067974049X ). The observed effects of solar flares through earth's magnetic field, and auroras at the poles, also manifest themselves through high voltage distribution overloads in certain areas due to these high energy/radiation "bursts". As the Earth rotates and revolves around the sun at great speed, a portion of the aether is polarized (is "rigidified" by "rapidly varying electrostatic forces" emitted by the Earth) and carried along by the electric field of the Earth which decreases with the inverse square of the distance from the Earth. Tesla measured these electrostatic emissions with a particular partially evacuated tube which he could orient as desired and watch the wave patterns change shape. (green italics mine) According to your source your precious Tesla seems to have known that the earth rotates and revolves around the sun. Again: eppur si muove.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.
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Parasomnium
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Interpreting pictures
DevilsAdvocate writes: How do you know these galaxies are "standing right beside each other and touching each other"? By what method of determining distance are you determing this? Smooth Operator, in response writes: By the picture that shows them touching each other! Something like this?
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.
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Parasomnium
Member Posts: 2224 Joined: 07-15-2003
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Re: Your Model Your Terms
Straggler writes: Even on it's own terms your model fails. Until he mentions the fact that the Earth if firmly stapled to the space it occupies and that some sticky tape has been added for good measure.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.
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Parasomnium
Member Posts: 2224 Joined: 07-15-2003
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Message 421 of 633 (520731)
08-23-2009 3:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 420 by NosyNed
08-23-2009 10:12 AM
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Re: Good luck
NosyNed writes: a little luck doesn't hurt either If it's an exam about physics no amount of luck is going to be enough.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.
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Parasomnium
Member Posts: 2224 Joined: 07-15-2003
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Re: Try Again....
Smooth Operator, how does your model explain the Oort Cloud, and long period comets?
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.
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Parasomnium
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Message 558 of 633 (530479)
10-13-2009 5:31 PM
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Reply to: Message 557 by onifre
10-13-2009 5:17 PM
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Re: Astronomical distances and Black Holes
onifre writes: Smooth, check your references next time before it makes you look like you're passing along false information. Too late. (About 556 posts too late, to be exact.)
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.
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Parasomnium
Member Posts: 2224 Joined: 07-15-2003
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Not even wrong
Smooth Operator writes: Until you do have [...] EVIDENCE, we are going to stick with what we know. And that is that the Earth is special. Hold on there. Where is your evidence that there's a "we"? I'm going to stick with what I know. And that is that there's only me, and I'm the one who's special. The universe rotates around me. Wherever I go, I am always at the centre of everything I see. You, on the other hand, are nothing but electrons in my computer, letters on my screen. You are "Smooth Operator Posts Only". So don't you talk about evidence, because I have the evidence right here in front of me. That's why I'm right, and you are not even wrong. Edited by Parasomnium, : No reason given.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.
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