The Barbarian
Member (Idle past 6267 days) Posts: 31 From: Dallas, TX US Joined: 01-09-2002
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Message 56 of 121 (6996)
03-16-2002 8:40 AM
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For example, in the common bacteria E coli, there are three genes in the B-gal system : a permease (lacY), which allows B-galactosides into the cell; a B-galactosidase (lacZ), which digests the B-galactosides into usable sugars (galactose and glucose, through allo-lactose); and an enhancer (lacI), which increases production of the other two lac proteins about 500 to 1000x in the presense of B-galactosides. This is an 'irreproducbly complex' system - remove any one of the proteins (lacY, lacZ, or lacI), and the cell can't use B-galactosides as a carbon source. Back in 1982, Barry Hall removed the lacZ gene from a strain of E coli, then plated them to see how long it would take the bacteria to re-develop lacZ function. It took less than 3 weeks. The bacteria had another protein (completely unrelated to lacZ) that could catalyze the needed reaction, but at about one thousandth the needed levels (even if 100% of the protein in the bacteria were this, it wouldn't be enough). A mutation increased its ability to catalyze the reaction to usable levels. A second, later mutation altered the protein again, so that the end product could activate the lac system again - IT WAS NOW REGULATED (only active in the presence of substrate); the old lacI and lacY proteins were now part of a new system (which is now, again, irreproducibly complex). "Evolution on a Petri Dish : The evolved B-galactosidase system as a model for studying acquisitive evolution in the lab", Barry G Hall, Evolutionary Biology (1982) #15, pg 85-150. ID said that this was impossible. Yet it demonstrably happens. Let the whining and excuses begin.
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The Barbarian
Member (Idle past 6267 days) Posts: 31 From: Dallas, TX US Joined: 01-09-2002
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Message 106 of 121 (7979)
03-29-2002 9:42 AM
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[b]I can understand how a Muslim can have reverence for the Bible (although most of them consider the Bible to have major factual errors). But to call the Bible the Word of God is to admit the divinity of Jesus. Which is something no Muslim would do. And John Paul never cites the Q'uran. Ever. And he either ignores me or throws a tantrum when I ask him about it. I'm pretty sure he's a fundamentalist Christian, who's posing as a Muslim, for reasons at which I can't guess.
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