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Author Topic:   Discovery or Ignorance: The Choice Is yours?
New Cat's Eye
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Message 8 of 402 (473751)
07-02-2008 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by John 10:10
07-02-2008 4:11 PM


To the IDists/Creationists, this is what science is all about, proving cause and effect in everything between micro to macro space.
Why not let scientists determine what science is all about? Because, the IDists/Creationists are wrong about it.
Then we proceed to discover as much about God's creation as He allows us to discover.
You mean like discovering that the Theory of Evolution is an accurate description of the way things evolve?
IDists/Creationists start with understanding that God, the Intelligent Designer, is the Creator.
You shouldn't start with the conclusion and then look for the evidence. You should start with the evidence and then come up with a conclusion. That's what science is "all about".

Science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence.
Letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith, faith, faith, faith.
Science has failed our world.
Science has failed our Mother Earth.
-System of a Down, "Science"
He who makes a beast out of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man.
-Avenged Sevenfold, "Bat Country"

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 22 of 402 (473835)
07-03-2008 9:06 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by John 10:10
07-02-2008 10:00 PM


science - a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing (proving) the operation of general laws
What body of facts or truths does ID/Creo deal with, how do they arrange them, and what general laws do they show the operation of?
'Cause I ain't seein' nuthin'
It seems that you have supported my position, that what ID/Creos are doing isn't science, even according to a dictionary definition.
IDists/Creationists allow this principle to guide their pursuit of true science,
Bullshit!
Then why do they spend all their time attacking the opposing theory rather than supporting their own?
but not theories such as evolution which can never be proven.
Well, according to your theory, God must be not allowing you discover this about his creation, right?
quote:
Answer: IDists/Creationists start with understanding that God, the Intelligent Designer, is the Creator. Then we proceed to discover as much about God's creation as He allows us to discover. To the IDists/Creationists, this is what science is all about, proving cause and effect in everything between micro to macro space.
How do you know the difference between when you're wrong about a theory because God is not allowing you to discover it and when the theory really is wrong? Because you're wrong about the ID/Creo theory being correct and it seems that God is not allowing you to accept evolution (which is the truth). So, how do you know when you're right?

ABE:
FYI, the Big Bang Theory does not say that the Universe came from nothing.
Edited by Catholic Scientist, : see ABE:
Edited by Catholic Scientist, : typo

Science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence.
Letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith, faith, faith, faith.
Science has failed our world.
Science has failed our Mother Earth.
-System of a Down, "Science"
He who makes a beast out of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man.
-Avenged Sevenfold, "Bat Country"

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