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Author Topic:   Discovery or Ignorance: The Choice Is yours?
mike the wiz
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Message 201 of 402 (474252)
07-07-2008 9:25 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Straggler
07-01-2008 1:08 PM


Creationist/IDist positions make no attempt to pass such tests. Creationist/IDist theories have led to no new research areas or discoveries.
Why is this?
Because the generations of the heavens and the earth is completed. Creationist belief is the belief that God created the heavens and the earth, and that was that.
In short - Science is a philosophy and method of discovery whilst creationism (in all its various ID forms) is a philosophy of ignorance.
Not really. you can define what you like but ultimately, logic out-strips science.
Logically, the facts indicate nothing but the facts. Man himself has to explain history being ingnorant. As far as I can see, it's how evidence is interpreted.
Creationism isn't ignorance, it's just an alternative explanation for those who genuinely believe that history happened according to how the Holy Bible said it did. While this doesn't exclude evolution, the consequences are obvious - that one must accept his bible as weaker and weaker, and more watered down, until guess what? You then question Christ himself - and how his miracles could have been naturally explained. Where does it end?
As far as I can see, evolution is an explanation which powerfully favours naturalistic origins and the removal of God.
To me, I have not been shown how evolution certainly happened, logically. Because logically, it is no proven in it's entirety.
Why would I prefer to believe a natural theory over a biblical history?
Call us what you like but it's stiff cheese if we know that objectively theories come and go. Listen - new developments abound because yu already ASSUME evolution happened! Now pretend that evolution didn't happen - and THEN look at that development.
Objectively - it is irrelevant if you say evo is brilliant and creo is sour ignorance, that will not change that evolution is just a theory, unproven, which might be replaced by another theory, just as scientific history shows.
Meanwhile, I am not convinced the brilliance of creation came about by itself - and logically it is STILL upon you to prove the extraordinary claim that all this brilliant creation was infact evolution.

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