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Author Topic:   Immaterial "Evidence"
onifre
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Message 39 of 154 (521416)
08-27-2009 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by petrophysics1
08-22-2009 3:16 PM


Re: Believability and Reliability
Sorry Straggler but this post will be off-topic.
He is the one who made 2840 posts here.
Just read them and you will see what RAZD knows.
But if you have the same psychological problem as Straggler you will not notice it.
Not a big deal, I see people like Straggler do this all the time.
I'm still waiting for your reply in the other threads you pussy.
Quit being so judgmental and man up, bitch. Don't just make one post and flee, stick around and defend your position, or do you lack the balls to do that?
- Oni

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onifre
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Message 144 of 154 (525232)
09-22-2009 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by New Cat's Eye
09-22-2009 12:56 PM


Re: Absence of Evidence - Common Ground At Last
Does god exist?
Outside of all the proposed God(s) that have been said to exist, there are no other descriptions of God(s). Therefore, I could simply be an atheist to that (or those) types of descriptions of God(s).
Any other ambiguous description merits no consideration for belief or disbelief. In fact, no other description of God can be understood without evidence for what you (or someone who believes in this ambiguous figure) believes exists.
God, as in Yahwah, Allah, Ra, Zeus, Apollo, Vishnu, etc., are the only God(s) we know of. Some other nondescript version of this entity fails to make the cut as a "God," it's just what you (or someone with your shared perspective) are calling something that you can't describe. How is that a God? Furthermore, how could I be considered an atheist toward something like that?
Does god exist?
What do you mean by God?
- Oni
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onifre
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Message 145 of 154 (525234)
09-22-2009 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by Straggler
09-22-2009 1:24 PM


Absence of evidence for what exactly?
CS writes:
Does god exist?
Straggler writes:
Very probably not.
Let me ask you the question with some specifics, Straggler, to see if that probably would change.
- Do you believe Zeus is the ruler of Mount Olympus and the god of the sky and thunder?
- Do you believe Apollo is the son of Zeus and Leto, and has a twin sister, the chaste huntress Artemis?
- Do you believe Allah is the creator of the universe?
- Do you believe Bacchus is the god of wine, and the patron deity of agriculture and the theater?
- Do you believe Jesus was born of a virgin?
- Do you believe Vishnu is the All-Pervading essence of all beings, the master ofand beyondthe past, present and future, the creator and destroyer of all existences, one who supports, sustains and governs the Universe and originates and develops all elements within?
And finally, do any of these God(s) exist and represent these characteristics?
Would you be a #6 or a #7 on the atheist scale when considering those above specifics?

Now, let me ask it this way: Do you believe an unknowable, nondescript force, that you can't currently experience objectively, might exists?
Would you consider this "unknowable, nondescript force, that you can't currently experience objectively" a God? OR just the name I'm giving something that I experienced, for lack of a better word/explanation?
Are you an atheist toward God, as described in religions, cults, sects, tribes, OR, are you an atheist to some unknown, nondescript force that lacks any further explanation?
- Oni
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