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Author Topic:   If you were God, what kind of God would you be?
anglagard
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Message 32 of 247 (520010)
08-19-2009 1:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by John 10:10
08-17-2009 1:32 PM


Mr. Softy
John 10:10 writes:
(1) What kind of God would you be if you could be God?
Well for one thing I would give every single person the paradise they envisioned upon the death of the body.
That means the fundies would get the streets of gold, the continuous hosannas to the supreme deity, the authoritarian structure they are so hot for, and the elimination of heterosexual physical love they are not for -- and most important, the illusion of that smug feeling they can get when seeing everyone they didn't like, who looked or thought differently and chose not to even try to understand, a good toasting in that Dante version of hell that supersedes the Bible.
And then after some time and they all became bored out of their skulls and wanting to commit suicide, I would tell them that it is exactly what they demanded of me as a supreme being.
Now for someone like jar, who has a version of paradise where people keep learning and discovering new things, I would provide them exactly that version of paradise that they desire. They would probably be so busy enjoying such a paradise, the thought of suicide would be unfathomable.
For a pantheist like myself, I would allow the better parts to become a part of me (as a god) and would throw away the parts which are undesirable. However, I would want to be absolutely certain and would reincarnate such people through different realities as a sort of purification. After all, one mark of omnipotence is to know thyself through always questioning one's decisions.
Piss me off and you get a continuous loop of the theme to the Twilight Zone.
(2) What kind of cosmos would you have created?
One with challenges so the lifeforms don't get so bored they desire suicide.
(ABE} Heaven
Heaven is a place
Where nothing
Nothing ever happens
-Talking Heads{/ABE}
Edited by anglagard, : No reason given.

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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anglagard
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From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


Message 36 of 247 (520014)
08-19-2009 2:32 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Peg
08-19-2009 2:27 AM


Some Prefer Adulthood
Peg writes:
i thought we were already gods? Isnt that what A&E wanted, to become more like God. And isnt that what eating of the tree made them? More like God!
We are self governed and independent, we make our own rules and live by our own standards. You only need to look at the state of our world and societies and you can clearly see the types of gods we have become.
Seems like you still haven't gotten over being weaned.

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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anglagard
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Message 112 of 247 (520775)
08-23-2009 11:26 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by Peg
08-23-2009 10:52 PM


Re: Should I Rape Suzy?
peg writes:
yes, it is a lie.
It is a pleasure to find something we can agree on.

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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anglagard
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Message 114 of 247 (520782)
08-24-2009 12:30 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by John 10:10
08-17-2009 1:32 PM


Back to Basics
John 10:10 writes:
Since most who come to this forum are unbelievers in God who created the heavens and the earth, and you reject the God of the Bible, I would like to see these folk answer the following questions:
It's not that I don't believe in God, it is that I trust my personal relationship over your secondhand interpretation or your claimed immaculate and idolatrous worship of a series of bound paper of unknown provenance.
In other words plain and simple, I worship GOD, not you or your master.
Edited by anglagard, : Make it absolutely clear in last sentence.

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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anglagard
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Message 118 of 247 (520918)
08-25-2009 12:56 AM


My Statement
I condemn rape as a criminal act under all circumstances, therefore no, do not rape Suzy, period.
Where are the holier-than-thou in this challenge?
- Anglagard, Spinoza Pantheist (mostly, but not entirely), and 101% supporter of evolution and an old earth and universe.
Edited by anglagard, : Add support for evolution as that was the challenge
Edited by anglagard, : Answer the direct question.

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

  
anglagard
Member (Idle past 864 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


Message 119 of 247 (520919)
08-25-2009 1:05 AM
Reply to: Message 110 by Dr Adequate
08-23-2009 7:38 AM


Re: * drums fingers lightly on desk *
Dr Adequate writes:
Will any creationist admit that rape is wrong? I mean, they can't all be evil, can they?
Well, maybe they can. This thread has been a bit of an eye-opener for me.
Count me in too as well. Kind of gives a new meaning to the phrase "the devil is in the details" as in their god has all the attributes of any purported Antichrist.

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 864 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


Message 122 of 247 (520946)
08-25-2009 6:19 AM
Reply to: Message 121 by Peg
08-25-2009 6:03 AM


Re: * drums fingers lightly on desk *
Peg writes:
For anyone to say that God commanded men/soldiers to rape women is nothing but slander... perhaps this is why christians are not bothering with the question being posed. I wont be making any reply's to this post either because its been done to death in the other thread.
Interesting.
All that is asked is if a creationist/fundamentalist would make a simple statement against rape.
Strange that none can actually do it, obviously their false pride precludes them from defending morality.
I was hoping you would be the first to officially renounce rape under all circumstances. Evidently my faith was misplaced.

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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