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Author Topic:   If you were God, what kind of God would you be?
Otto Tellick
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Message 164 of 247 (521867)
08-29-2009 8:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by John 10:10
08-17-2009 1:32 PM


Yet another non-answer from an atheist
John 10:10 writes:
(1) What kind of God would you be if you could be God?
The term "God", and the vast, vague array of notions that it stands for (omni-you-name-it, "X and not X", "outside of time", etc), is nothing more than a linguistic slight-of-hand, a semantic shell-game, a verbose philosophical version of 3-Card Monte.
To me, your question 1 is equivalent to: "what kind of self-contradiction would you be if you could be an oxymoron?" Gosh, I've never really thought about how I would answer a question like that... and I guess I never will think about it.
(2) What kind of cosmos would you have created?
Are you asking us to play house, but with "the cosmos" instead? That's kindergarten stuff... "What sort of imaginary creatures would you like to make?" Sorry, I've no time for that this weekend.
Instead, I'll offer a couple of different questions for you:
If you lived your entire life not knowing of the Bible's existence (let alone its contents) -- or if the Bible had been written in such a way that it gave no "moral" or "historical" information at all:
(1) how would you figure out what were the "right" things to do on a day-to-day basis?
(2) how would you figure out the nature, background and workings of the things around you?
Bear in mind that lots of people have been in the position of having no exposure at all to the Bible as a source of moral principles, and have been able to do admirably well in getting along with reasonably moral behavior, comparing favorably with the typical behaviors in various Judeo-Christian (or Muslim) societies.
And as pointed out repeatedly in the science forums here, there's no shortage of knowledge about the things around us that does not come from the Bible, and in fact directly contradicts things in the Bible, and yet that knowledge is quite reliable and useful.
Edited by Otto Tellick, : minor rewording of first answer
Edited by Otto Tellick, : fixed misspelling in first paragaph

autotelic adj. (of an entity or event) having within itself the purpose of its existence or happening.

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Otto Tellick
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From: PA, USA
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Message 170 of 247 (521953)
08-30-2009 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by Modulous
08-30-2009 4:25 PM


Re: Collective punishment
Modulus writes:
So if the Pope does something illegal or immoral, it might be moral to kill a 9 year old Catholic.
If a Jehovah's Witness elder commits adultery, it could be an imperative to dash a JW's child's brains out against a rock.
Even if the moral crime occurred generations ago.
Isn't that sort of thing essentially the basis for some of the intra-Islamic conflicts? Well, gosh, if it works for Muslims (and it's in the Bible too!), why shouldn't it work for Christians?

autotelic adj. (of an entity or event) having within itself the purpose of its existence or happening.

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