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Author Topic:   If you were God, what kind of God would you be?
Bailey
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Message 91 of 247 (520479)
08-21-2009 4:58 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by mike the wiz
08-21-2009 1:23 PM


If I were King o' the Forest (taking a wiz) ...
Thank you for the exchange brutha mike.
I hope things are well for you today ...
I have not revealed what I meant.
Fair e'nuf - that seems to be the consensus ...
perhaps I am just evil, or I have a twisted logic?
Perhaps ...
What do you think? (Clear lucid answers are preferrable).
quote:
John 8:15
You people judge by outward appearances; I judge no man.
If I were a 'God', perhaps I would be as the 'God' of ...
Psalm 40:6, Isaiah 1:15, Yirmiyahu 7:22-23, Hoshea 6:6 and Matisyahu 9:13, 12:7, 18:21-22, 22:37, 38, 39 & 40.
Yet, I am just a man in love with Life, and of sinners, I am chief.
[second only to uncle Paul, of course].
One Love
Edited by Bailey, : sp.
Edited by Bailey, : sp.

I'm not here to mock or condemn what you believe, tho my intentions are no less than to tickle your thinker.
If those in first century CE had known what these words mean ... 'I want and desire mercy, not sacrifice'
They surely would not have murdered the innocent; why trust what I say, when you can learn for yourself?
Think for yourself.
Mercy Trumps Judgement,
Love Weary

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Straggler
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Message 92 of 247 (520483)
08-21-2009 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by Dr Adequate
08-21-2009 4:55 PM


Re: Should I Rape Suzy? Part III
No, you shouldn't rape Suzy.
It would be morally wrong.

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Bailey
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Message 93 of 247 (520485)
08-21-2009 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by Dr Adequate
08-21-2009 4:55 PM


Re: Should I Rape Suzy? Part III
Thanks for the discussion.
Hope things are well ...
brutha Stragg writes:
brutha doc writes:
brutha mike writes:
My original point still stands. Unless you are completely righteouss, how can your mind make a sound judgement? You are a person whom has views RELATIVE to your opinions, morals, worldview, etc. You can only make a conclusion based on that relativity.
I urge them to prove my point by replying to this post and posting the words: "No, you shouldn't rape Suzy".
No, you shouldn't rape Suzy.
It would be morally wrong.
Be it rhetorical - in the spirit of debate, I third the notion ... No, you shouldn't rape Suzy.
One Love
Edited by Bailey, : sp.

I'm not here to mock or condemn what you believe, tho my intentions are no less than to tickle your thinker.
If those in first century CE had known what these words mean ... 'I want and desire mercy, not sacrifice'
They surely would not have murdered the innocent; why trust what I say, when you can learn for yourself?
Think for yourself.
Mercy Trumps Judgement,
Love Weary

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Modulous
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Message 94 of 247 (520486)
08-21-2009 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by Dr Adequate
08-21-2009 4:55 PM


Re: Should I Rape Suzy? Part III
You really shouldn't rape Suzy. It would be a morally wrong. Have you tried asking her for a drink - it's a slower process but it is not immoral.

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Perdition
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Message 95 of 247 (520489)
08-21-2009 5:30 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by Dr Adequate
08-21-2009 4:55 PM


Re: Should I Rape Suzy? Part III
By any morality I could ever accept, I agree, you should not rape Suzy.
Of course, my inferior morality is probably just acting up again and you should feel free to give in to your basal desires to your heart's content.

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Percy
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Message 96 of 247 (520490)
08-21-2009 5:36 PM
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08-21-2009 4:55 PM


Re: Should I Rape Suzy? Part III
I strongly suggest not raping Suzy, seen here with her last assailant:
Sorry, couldn't resist.
--Percy
Edited by Percy, : Change image.

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Bailey
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Message 97 of 247 (520492)
08-21-2009 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by Percy
08-21-2009 5:36 PM


slightly off topic ...
Percy writes:
I strongly suggest not raping Suzy, seen here with her last assailant:
Is that Al Bundy ?!
Edited by Bailey, : added link

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Dr Adequate
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Message 98 of 247 (520493)
08-21-2009 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by Straggler
08-21-2009 5:15 PM


Re: Should I Rape Suzy? Part III
No, you shouldn't rape Suzy.
It would be morally wrong.
So, there you go, mike. One vote in. Straggler, who is an evolutionist (I don't know his opinions about God) can say clearly and distinctly that I shouldn't rape Suzy because that would be morally wrong.
Unfortunately for Suzy, I have rested her fate in your hands, not Straggler's. Poor girl. She's really not going to like what I'm going to do to her one little bit.
Should I rape Suzy?
It's a simple question. The people whom you decry as "moral relativists" can tell me that it would be wrong. I know that it would be wrong. But you --- your moral philosophy prevents you from expressing an opinion.
Which is a shame for Suzy. Her fate is in your hands.
Should I rape Suzy?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 99 of 247 (520494)
08-21-2009 5:54 PM


Should I Rape Suzy? Part III
Even while I was posting my last post, the posters "Perdition", "Modulous", and "Percy" --- evolutionists one and all, I note --- have chipped in and said that I shouldn't rape Suzy. Including "Straggler", that makes four evolutionists who are prepared to stand up and say that it would be wrong for me to rape Suzy (actually, five if you count me) and not one voice of dissent. 100% evolutionists against rape, 0% of creationists against rape.
It's easy for us evolutionists to condemn rape. It comes naturally. Read our posts. You see how easy it is to say that rape is wrong for someone who doesn't share your moral philosophy?
But can you say it?
Admit it. Say it. Say that it would be wrong for me to rape Suzy. Admit that there is a difference between good and evil, and that we, though imperfect, can distinguish between the two.
Say it. Say that I shouldn't rape Suzy. When you can say that, that will be the first step towards the cure for your moral illness.
No-one can make you take that step. You have to take it by yourself.
Should I rape Suzy?
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Straggler
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Message 100 of 247 (520497)
08-21-2009 6:10 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Dr Adequate
08-21-2009 5:45 PM


Re: Should I Rape Suzy? Part III
Straggler, who is an evolutionist (I don't know his opinions about God) can say clearly and distinctly that I shouldn't rape Suzy because that would be morally wrong.
I think it is fair to say that I am part of the atheist contingent here. Not quite the rabid church burning militant blood sucker of an atheist some might believe me to be. But definitely an atheist of one description or another.
Don't rape Suzy. It really would be very wrong indeed.

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Theodoric
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Message 101 of 247 (520498)
08-21-2009 6:10 PM
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08-21-2009 5:45 PM


Re: Should I Rape Suzy? Part III
Well I am as much an atheist as anyone that comes to this forum. I think people can tell that from my posts. I implore you not to rape Suzy because it is morally, ethically and legally wrong.
Imagine that an atheist with morals. Whodathunk?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Dr Adequate
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Message 102 of 247 (520501)
08-21-2009 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Theodoric
08-21-2009 6:10 PM


Re: Should I Rape Suzy? Part III
Well I am as much an atheist as anyone that comes to this forum. I think people can tell that from my posts. I implore you not to rape Suzy because it is morally, ethically and legally wrong.
Okay. I'll add you to the poll. So, six evolutionists have said that I shouldn't rape Suzy, and not one creationist.
Mike, over to you. Redeem your sinful creationist breed from their amoral position. Say, as clearly and distinctly as we evolutionists have said, that it would be wrong for me to rape Suzy.
Should I rape Suzy?

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Rahvin
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Message 103 of 247 (520502)
08-21-2009 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Dr Adequate
08-21-2009 6:33 PM


Re: Should I Rape Suzy? Part III
Make it seven. Don't rape Suzy.
It's perfectly possible to make moral determinations without the instruction of an imaginary authority figure.
Further, to anyone who thinks that a being who would tell a man to sacrifice his son and only relent at the last moment, or who would kill the entire world's population with a Flud, or kill all the firstborn children of Egypt because the Pharaoh did what the being forced him to do, is morally perfect...
Fuck you, sociopath. You'd think raping Suzy was good if your God told you to do it, and think it was bad if he told you that, too. For all your complaints of moral relativism, authoritarian morality is relativism of the worst kind, because it is based solely on the arbitrary whims of the authority figure and not an any sort of consistent standard.

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lyx2no
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Message 104 of 247 (520503)
08-21-2009 6:54 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Dr Adequate
08-21-2009 5:45 PM


Re: Should I Rape Suzy? Part III
RTFM.
If you slaughter her family and torch her house first, and then call it "marrage" it's cool.
AbE: The manual I suggest be read is the Bible, which lays down the rules for Holy atrocities.
I have little choice but to resort to satire as I have yet to achieve he wisdom of mike the wiz, Peg or John 10:10.
P.S. As much as I like you, Dr. Adequate, you'll have to count me as #8: I'm going to have to slip you a two headed quarter. (Not to cramp your style or anything, Dr Adequate, but if Suzy won't go for you even after the flowers and stuff and junk, could you ask her if she's into short, fat guys? Just askin'.)
Edited by lyx2no, : To clarify.

It's not the man that knows the most that has the most to say.
Anon

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Dr Adequate
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Message 105 of 247 (520507)
08-21-2009 7:47 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by lyx2no
08-21-2009 6:54 PM


Re: Should I Rape Suzy? Part III
While I appreciate your witty satire, you have not said enough for me to count you as number eight. Though I believe that your post implies it.

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