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Author Topic:   That boat don't float
ringo
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Message 435 of 453 (664153)
05-29-2012 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 414 by Jzyehoshua
05-28-2012 8:54 PM


Jzehoshua writes:

Well, theories could be proposed for how it COULD float, which is basically all Answers in Genesis did, theorize on ways a design could work given the minimal information we know.


AiG didn't theorize; they hypothesized. Theories require testing.

Why is it that creationists always come up with these (outlandish) ideas on how it "could" have happened but they never do any experiments to test their hypotheses? Why do they spend millions on propaganda and not one cent on science?


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Message 443 of 453 (671453)
08-25-2012 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 442 by ICANT
08-25-2012 11:32 AM


Re: Ark
ICANT writes:

The ark was to be 550' long, 91' wide and 55' high. That means that it would be the shape of a rectangler box.


Or it could have been an ellipsoid, like a submarine, which would make more sense.

ICANT writes:

Recently a 6 story wood frame building withstood a 7.5 earthquake with little damage.


If that building could float, it would be relevant to the topic.

ICANT writes:

The footprint was much smaller than that of the ark.


Actually, the ark's large footprint is the problem, not the solution. It's so long that it would "hang" between wave crests, flex and eventually break - if it didn't leak itself to death first.

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Message 450 of 453 (671473)
08-25-2012 5:50 PM
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08-25-2012 4:30 PM


Re: Ark
ICANT writes:

Show me anywhere in the blueprint that that there would be one place that the ark would not be 300 cubits long.

Show me anywhere in the blueprint that there would be any place where the ark would not be 50 cubits wide.

Show me anywhere in the bluepring that there would be any place where the ark would not be 30 cubits high.


It isn't a blueprint. It's a vague description. The dimensions given - length, width and height - could apply to an ellipsoid just as well as a box.

ICANT writes:

How tall are these waves you are talking about and what caused them?


They don't have to be very high. A few feet would be enough to cause a fairly large differential in bouyancy from end to end of the ark. That would produce stresses in the structure causing the wood to flex and the joints to work loose.

ICANT writes:

There are ocean going barges 459 feet long today traversing the oceans and surviving.


Wooden ones?

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