Heaven: How to Get In

Hi T&UHaving read the first 3 pages of replies to your question on how to get into an afterlife heaven, would I be right in assuming, like me, you are absolutely none the wiser?My view is that we are all so incredibly lucky to be born at all, especially into this time of astonishing wealth & health, that to fret about being born again and going to some better place is an absolute insult to our ancestors who lead unimaginably harsh lives to give us what we have. We are already in heaven, or at least can be once we realise what we have.

Hi T&UI'm sure like me you've heard all the "be a good boy/girl and do what God wants" type explanations on how to get into heaven long before you posted your question.What I'd like to hear, and I wonder if you would to, is how you actually get to heaven - I mean physically, or supernaturally, or soulfully, or whatever. I mean how do you actually get transported from this world to heaven and eternal life.I hate to keep asking the same question, as I have done under previous posts, but what are people ACTUALLY talking about? Let's say I've given all my money to the poor and I've asked God/Jesus to forgive me for all my sins. I.E. I've got a valid ticket to heaven. Now, what is ACTUALLY going to happen to me to get me to heaven?(I'm not asking you directly, of course. Just wondered if this is what you wanted to hear and if anyone else can shed some light on this.)

Hi PegThanks for your answer.I'm still a bit confused though. I don't understand what a "spirit" is, so I still don't understand how I will get transported to heaven (I don't even know what or where heaven is, but we'll leave that on the back-burner for the moment).Does becoming a "spirit" mean I'll be a sort of gas or some kind of energy force? That's not very appealing, to be honest.

Hi PegNo, I don't believe anything of the sort. The fact that nobody can explain what God ACTUALLY is, what heaven ACTUALLY is, what a spirit ACTUALLY is, is all I need to know to be sure that they mean absolutely nothing at all.

Yes. A straight-up explanation without metaphors, without similies, without allegories, without a vagueness that could be made to fit almost anything.That would be the first step forward. Obviously, I'd still have to see what the explanation was before I could say whether or not I was convinced by it.

Hi PegWell, thanks for your attempt at an explanation, though I'm sure you won't be surprised that I'm not in any way convinced by it.The obvious question to ask is where do you or this chap Timothy get your information from, especially in light of Timothy's comment, "not one of men has seen or can see"?