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Author Topic:   Atheist evolutionists: How far will you allow yourselves of sexual perversities?
Hyroglyphx
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Message 18 of 152 (522914)
09-06-2009 9:42 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Yrreg
09-04-2009 3:49 PM


Keepin' it clinical!
Atheist evolutionists: How far will you allow yourselves of sexual perversities?
I wouldn't classify myself as either an evolutionist or an atheist, but what exactly is your clinical definition of sexual perversity so that we can have some sort of starting point in the debate?
"Perversity" is a subjective term, so I just want to clarify. Does that include anything other than the "missionary position" for lawfully wedded men and women?

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 55 of 152 (523453)
09-10-2009 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Peg
09-08-2009 4:41 AM


Consent
sure animals can consent they've made a whole porn industry out of it
I think what he's referring to is legal consent. A child can technically consent to sexual relations, but not legally. The rationale goes that they do not yet have the maturity or mental capacity to fully understand what they are consenting to.
Obviously that applies to animals as well.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 56 of 152 (523456)
09-10-2009 12:51 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by mike the wiz
09-08-2009 2:14 PM


This is why people think we have "homophobia", if we pick out certain folk, but I should also mention that staright-sex fornication is not permissable under the New Testament and many christians will partake in this.
The bible doesn't classify or categorize sin in an order of precedence. That implies that all sexual sin is the same in God's eyes, yet many Christians seem to make out homosexuality to be worse than adultery or other forms of sexual sin.
My conclusion is that sin can only be dealt with internally. No human solution will work, or none-Theist solution. until a rapist DESIRES righteousness, he will continue to obey his sinful nature.
There are countless unbelievers who are not rapists and many others who have rehabilitated without the need for God, so that your outcome does not follow the premise. While I would agree that it is an internal decison, it is a personal decison of some sort but not necessarily a spiritual decison.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 67 of 152 (523569)
09-11-2009 9:19 AM
Reply to: Message 64 by Peg
09-11-2009 12:02 AM


Re: No Contradiction, Logic, or Morality Here
i can tell you that the bible is clear that they are each as bad as the other.
I agree that this is the way the bible views it, which I think is why he is asking why many fundamentalist Christians treat homosexuality more severely than other forms of sexual sin.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 72 of 152 (523583)
09-11-2009 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by Peg
09-11-2009 10:06 AM


Re: No Contradiction, Logic, or Morality Here
Personally, i think homosexuality is picked on more because its a minority involved and its not considered to be a natural act. Sex between males and females is probably easier to understand and therefore accept. (thats just my opinion btw)
I'd say that's the likely accurate reason.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 73 of 152 (523585)
09-11-2009 10:31 AM
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09-11-2009 10:17 AM


Re: No Contradiction, Logic, or Morality Here
The problem with that is that God says "stop judging that you may not be judged, for with the portion that you are judging, you yourself will be judged"
Or simply put, its hypocrisy.
Very true. I despise hypocrisy. The kicker of it is, we've all been guilty of it at some point.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 93 of 152 (524374)
09-16-2009 9:04 AM
Reply to: Message 85 by mike the wiz
09-14-2009 6:18 AM


Re: No Contradiction, Logic, or Morality Here
When I was ten years old, I got to reading Genesis, and guess what - before any kind of worldly influences of any meaning, I understood Genesis.
That's because presumably by age 10 you knew how to read English. As we all know about most children, they're quite taken in by fanciful and enchanted stories.
It's a matter of studying the bible, as a "whole" thing, and asking; "If God is behind this WHOLE thing, then what is his message?"
The message is sin.
Have you ever lied?
Have you ever stolen?
Have you ever cursed God or took His name in vain?
Have you ever commited adultery, even in your heart? Have you lusted ever before?
Have you ever been angry at your brother?
Nobody has ever gotten around the fact that they have all done wrong in life, and even though the bible tells us about a Holy God that cannot withstand sin, people still believe they can enter his presence and live.
It was God that imparted the sinful behavior to begin with. He doesn't make us sin directly, so the story goes, but deductive reasoning tells us he gives us the ability and even the desire to sin, then says if we would just follow him he'd make us clean. That is extortion.

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