Hi Peg,
Do you have a grudge against the English language or something?
i didnt say he denied evolution, i said he he acknowledged design.
Yes, he acknowledges the theoretical possibility that the universe was designed by an incompetent moron. Is that your argument? Are you arguing that the designer was a drooling imbecile? If so, then your Sagan quote is highly apposite.
If not, you are pissing into the wind.
In the mean time, back at the reality ranch, here is another Carl Sagan quote;
Carl Sagan writes:
You see, the religious people most of them really think this planet is an experiment. That's what their beliefs come down to. Some god or other is always fixing and poking, messing around with tradesmen's wives, giving tablets on mountains, commanding you to mutilate your children, telling people what words they can say and what words they can't say, making people feel guilty about enjoying themselves, and like that. Why can't the gods leave well enough alone? All this intervention speaks of incompetence. If God didn't want Lot's wife to look back, why didn't he make her obedient, so she'd do what her husband told her? Or if he hadn't made Lot such a shithead, maybe she would've listened to him more. If God is omnipotent and omniscient, why didn't he start the universe out in the first place so it would come out the way he wants? Why's he constantly repairing and complaining? No, there's one thing the Bible makes clear: The biblical God is a sloppy manufacturer. He's not good at design, he's not good at execution. He'd be out of business if there was any competition.
I think perhaps you should run with the Designer-as-Nincompoop hypothesis. Sagan makes a good case for it.
Mutate and Survive
"A curious aspect of the theory of evolution is that everybody thinks he understands it." - Jacques Monod