A good post is a good post and the mundane are mundane and require nothing further.
The real jerky, disagreeable, poorly thought out, misdirecting, chaffing, ugly as my third girlfriend kind of posts are not worth my effort to actually move the mouse then click on the red circle. It's a waste of electrons.
Re: Ideally, a (+) for a very good message, a (-) for a very bad message
You are specifically the reason I discontinued the (-) option. . . . Which, to me, was nothing much more than you being a jerk (OSLT).
Moose, Moose, you know I love you, but sometimes you act like when Our Great Goddess Athena reached down to give you intellect she put your brain back in sideways. You have become obsessed with this whole +- crap with Tanypteryx in your crosshairs.
You're being petty and vindictive, two things that do not look at all good on mooses.
I don't know what set you off this time but ...
1. Tanypteryx is a good member of this community, has done nothing wrong and deserves better treatment.
2. This whole +- crap stuff is petty to begin with.
I know Percy wants to test different developments in a live environment and I can appreciate that, but, Moose, Moosie, you and I and a number of others here graduated High School already and should be leaving this popularity contest shit behind.
This forum should have the collective intellect that is beyond this childish nonsense.
A. Stop stepping on Tanypteryx's fingers. He's a good guy.
3. Ignore this juvenile +- member rating silliness and leave such prattle to the children.
You're better than this. This community is better than this.
Re: Face it -- any rating system will be used as a popularity contest
Face it -- any rating system will be used as a popularity contest, because that is human nature.
Yes, tis. It is still childish none the less in an intellectual forum. Again, I understand Percy's motivation to test these things but for us this should not be any issue at all.
[aside] Yes, I admit I experience a nose-in-the-air snooty intellectually superior feeling in this forum. Not because I am, but because this forum is quite a bit above most everything else out there in forumland. [/aside]
Why not use smilies picked from a (short)list
A simple show of ones feelings toward a specific post is a good thing for the respondent, the poster and the lurker. But building some "member rating" based on such responses is juvenile because the data input has nothing to do with good/bad productive/occasional member but only agree/disagree post and, too often, like/detest poster. Look at our Lovely Lady Faith. Her member rating was in the toilet yet she is a good, productive, fun (maddening) member of this community. She helps make this a fun place to play. She is a good member of this community and deserves better.
The best way to express ones response is to actually respond in writing. Especially in those cases where you disagree strongly and would give a "-", if it were available which I hope it never is again, you should as a common courtesy to the rest of the hoard tell us why.
A quick "+" is quite adequate to express agreement/appreciation for a specific post. While many see the "-" in the same light my personal view is two fold:
- There is enough negative around us every day. We really don't need more coming from our playground.
- In intellectual discourse disagreement is best served with complete understanding in writing not with some hit-and-run unexplained "-". The "+" doesn't carry the same need for explanation.
The "+" is all that is necessary, in my considerably superior intellectually borderline opinion.
BTW. If smilies were to be used we would need one flipping the bird and another with its pants down saying "Bite Me!"
Re: Nothing wrong with popularity if you're looking for activity
Why do we need some "popularity" rating? What does it accomplish? Ego?
Do away with this member rating stuff via popularity, participation, + or -, secret ballot , dart board or any other way and all these problems with members like Faith and the inevitable and never ending questions "what's it mean?" and "what is fair?" all go away. These things are never quite fair or representative of anything anyway so why all the fuss and bother over such a meaningless number. As long as mine is in the upper ranges near the top then who cares?
I'm gonna whine and complain just like everyone else. I been done needlessly dirty and I protest. My member rating is less than a perfect 10, which is where it should be ... and stay there! At one time I had a perfect rating (well deserved, of course) and my rating remained at 10, as well it should. But now my rating is not just not 10 but is wondering into the nether regions below 9 and changes hither and yon like I'm not consistently the best there could possibly be!
Oh good god! Now it's a friggin 6?!
This is outrageous and needs to change!
Write your massive modules of convoluted code around your tortuous theorems to rate everyone else as you so wish, but I insist, nay, I demand that my rating be pegged at 10 ... for all time to come!
I figure that as comprehensive a feature-rich set of code as Percy has created here there most probably is a Forum Owner's option to turn off member rating altogether. I think maybe, in the interest of checking out that portion of the module Percy should turn off the member rating just to see if it really works as he expects. I should think, just to be thorough in this test, he should leave it off for, say, 5 years.