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Huntard Member (Idle past 2316 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined:
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Use thumb=500 then, it'll make it much bigger, like this (this is the "500" size):
I hunt for the truth I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping handMy image is of agony, my servants rape the land Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore. -Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2316 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined:
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Uhm, dear Dr., sorry to do this but... Australia doesn't really count as "the old world".
So, perhaps find another one? Please? {ABE}Ok, I guess the Comoros do count, as they belong to Africa. Thanks! Edited by Huntard, : Added ABE bit I hunt for the truth I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping handMy image is of agony, my servants rape the land Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore. -Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2316 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined:
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Aha.
Well, ok. I admit my mistake. I should have known better then to question the truths set forth by the greatest of prophets. Weird they'd call them old world fruit bat then, but hey, who am I to question learned men... I hunt for the truth I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping handMy image is of agony, my servants rape the land Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore. -Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2316 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined:
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Calypsis4 writes:
And nowhere does evolution claim this will happen.
The same genetic limitations that will allow a dog to interbreed and produce a mixed canine offsrping will not ever produce a non-dog. That is the point you are missing. Interesting that lions can breed with tigers and produce a liger but ligers are hybrid.
Uhm yes, that's what hybrid means...Being of two different spcies...
Horses can breed with donkeys and produce mules. Yet mules are also hybrid.
Again, yes, that's what hybrid means. Are you perhaps thinknig of the term infertile? Please get your terms straight, that will keep the discussion so much clearer.
The living fossils reveal the truth of those limitations that God made upon nature.
No not really. The are exactly as we would expect with evolution happening. Not everything needs to change constantly, you know.
And nature will not violate that law of its own accord no matter what the skeptics think otherwise.
Yes, so being poofed out of thin air is impossible. I hunt for the truth I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping handMy image is of agony, my servants rape the land Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore. -Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2316 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined:
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Calypsis4 writes:
I'm certainly not. Anyone's personal beliefs are of no interest to me. I'm here to learn, and to educate. "Let slip"? Gosh, you're catching on slowly. And what are your motivations for being here? It couldn't possibly be to convert poor, ignorant, fundamentalist beleivers in an intellegent Creator God now could it? (wink). I hunt for the truth I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping handMy image is of agony, my servants rape the land Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore. -Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2316 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined:
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Calypsis4 writes:
Yes they are, as Mr. Jack wrote in Message 159 No they are not. Mr. jack writes: The magnolia - yup, same Genus. Cool, they're a kind.The nautiluses - same family, same kind. The crayfish - nope, different families, different kinds The bats - nope, different families so different kinds The scorpionflies - again, different families so different kinds The 'gliding lizards' - different orders (in case you don't know, Orders are above Families in the classification system) so definetly different kinds Ditto the brittle stars The "possoms" - nope, different subclasses! Even further out! Different kinds Tigers and Hyenas, unsurprisingly, are different families You say he was incorrect in stating this? Why? I hunt for the truth I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping handMy image is of agony, my servants rape the land Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore. -Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2316 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined:
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Calypsis4 writes:
Uhm, no. This is what the clasification tells us. Do you not agree with the classification? Then why did you bring up "families" as being equal to "kind"?
That is purely your opinion. 1. Magnolias; The magnolias were of the same family. Why did you bring this up? (Me: 1, you:zero)
Because you were the ones that said this was about family.
2. Nautilus: why did you bring this up? (Me: 2, you: zero)
Same reason.
3. Crayfish: You didn't tell the truth. You cannot determine that the fossil crayfish is a different kind than what was posted in the picture because it is too obscure to determine the details.
You gave the frigin names, yet now you say they are not correct? Why mention the names then?
4. bat: Nope, you are dead wrong and I posted a detailed diagram of a skeleton that one can make a point by point comparison. (Me: 3, you: zero)
They still belong to different families. Do you deny this? Why?
5. Scropionflies: different SPECIES, not different family. (Me 4, you: zero)
No, different family. Do you even know what those names mean?
6. gliding lizards: we will arm wrestle over this one. I answered this that scientists in different parts of the world classify it differently. (secondly, don't give me a condescending attitude by telling me that 'in case you don't know, Orders are above Families in the classification system'...something I taught for 26 yrs and memorized since the 7th grade.)
Yet you blatantly deny that the scorpionflies are sufferent families, when then names indicate otherwise.
7. possums: That's nuts! Then the evolutionists have classified Gobiconodon in error because the fossil and the modern skeleton are virtually identical!
I know nothing of possums, so I'll leave this one for others.
8. Brittle stars: You don't read carefully. The illustration I posted said, 'Ophiarachenella' (species undetermined). I claim this point because the fossil and the living offspring are identical. (Me: 5, you: zero).
And I claim you're wrong... Now what? Just because something is similar doesn't mean it's the same family.
9. Tigers & Hyenas: I made the point that if there was a mistake here then it was that AOL posted a hyena skull in the tiger section of its 'pictures of tigers' format. They are very similar. (Me:5, you: 1)
Yes, but different families very clearly. Now do you see that when something is very similar it isn't neccesarily the same family?
Have a nice day.
You as well. I hunt for the truth I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping handMy image is of agony, my servants rape the land Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore. -Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2316 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
This one:
Is different families again And this one:
The bottom ones are different families also. Admin wants to focus topic, my reply was hidden to comply to that. Edited by Huntard, : No reason given. I hunt for the truth I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping handMy image is of agony, my servants rape the land Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore. -Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead
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