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Dr Jack
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Message 46 of 416 (527095)
09-30-2009 10:02 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Calypsis4
09-29-2009 11:10 PM


Are kinds families?
Who told you that? Every creationist that I personally know of says that 'kind' is on the 'family' level.
You're sure about that. You are sure that if two different things are in different families they are different kinds? You're not going to come back later and say that two things in different families are actually the same kind?
Edited by Mr Jack, : Appropriate subtitle

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Dr Adequate
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Message 47 of 416 (527096)
09-30-2009 10:04 AM
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09-30-2009 9:58 AM


Re: Magnolias, Bat, Crayfish, and Opposum
That is not really an honest assessment. I did not say any of them were 'not a very good example' of a transitional.
That would be why I was replying to slevesque and not to you.
I said there 'were not' any examples, period.
Really? Whatever possessed you to recite such a blatant falsehood?
I challenge anyone on this thread to find them.
I found them! Turns out that they were hiding in the fossil record. Where were you looking?
But this is hardly the place for you to be wrong about this subject. If you want to be wrong about intermediate forms, start a new thread about intermediate forms. This thread is for you to be wrong about "living fossils" in.

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Calypsis4
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Message 48 of 416 (527098)
09-30-2009 10:09 AM
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09-30-2009 10:01 AM


Re: Magnolias
"Hi Calypsis,
If you use... instead of...you can control your the width of your images"
Thanks. I will keep that in mind. But I prefer the broad spectrum. It helps those of us with eyesight problems.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 49 of 416 (527099)
09-30-2009 10:09 AM
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09-30-2009 9:03 AM


Re: Living fossils expose evolution??
I know it is called echolocation:
And yet in your post you distinguished between animals that use sonar and animals that use "radar". To hilarious effect.
Don't give me that condescending attitude again or your posts will be ignored.
Feel free to ignore my posts. I for my part will feel free to continue to point out the errors in your posts.
If you wish to give up on defending your errors from my criticism, then this admission of failure is yours and yours alone to make. It's entirely up to you.

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Calypsis4
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Message 50 of 416 (527100)
09-30-2009 10:12 AM
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09-30-2009 10:04 AM


Re: Magnolias, Bat, Crayfish, and Opposum
Turns out that they were hiding in the fossil record. Where were you looking?"
Looking for the last 40 yrs since I converted from evolution at everything I could get my hands on.
You were challenged to produce the evolutionary transistions between known organims but all I get is a light-hearted reply with no evidence.
You are fast losing credibility with me.
Nonetheless, I wish you well.

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Calypsis4
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Message 51 of 416 (527102)
09-30-2009 10:13 AM
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09-30-2009 10:09 AM


Re: Living fossils expose evolution??
Feel free to ignore my posts
You said it.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 52 of 416 (527103)
09-30-2009 10:14 AM
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09-30-2009 9:30 AM


Re: Magnolias
No species that has legs differing by 200%. Oh, but there is.
Tigers and cats. They are both feline.
Did you just say that tigers and domestic cats are the same species?
My goodness, you did, didn't you?
It's not quite up there with your "radar" blunder, but it's still pretty amusing.

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Message 53 of 416 (527104)
09-30-2009 10:16 AM
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09-30-2009 10:13 AM


Re: Living fossils expose evolution??
Dr. Werner made a prediction before his world-wide tour examining fossils that he would gather evidence of mammals in the era of the dinosaur which supposedly existed 65-70 million yrs ago. Were mammals and dinosaur contemporary? This is what he found:

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Dr Adequate
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Message 54 of 416 (527105)
09-30-2009 10:19 AM
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09-30-2009 10:12 AM


Re: Magnolias, Bat, Crayfish, and Opposum
Looking for the last 40 yrs since I converted from evolution at everything I could get my hands on.
But somehow everything that you could get your hands on did not include any information about the fossil record.
Were you being kept in some sort of special prison where they don't give you books?
You were challenged to produce the evolutionary transistions between known organims but all I get is a light-hearted reply with no evidence.
As I have pointed out, this thread is reserved for you to make false statements about "living fossils". If you want me to kick your ass over the issue of intermediate forms, you must start another thread.
You are fast losing credibility with me.
Dear me. It seems that I am "losing credibility" with the man who identified extinct forms as living fossils, who asserted that bats use radar, who said that cats and tigers are the same species, and who pretends that there are no intermediate forms in the fossil record.
Given the company that my statements would be keeping, I should be somewhat perturbed if you found any of them credible.
Now, would you like to resume being wrong about "living fossils"? It's not all as funny as your other stuff, but it is on topic.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Message 55 of 416 (527106)
09-30-2009 10:20 AM
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09-30-2009 10:16 AM


Re: Living fossils expose evolution??
Dr. Werner made a prediction before his world-wide tour examining fossils that he would gather evidence of mammals in the era of the dinosaur which supposedly existed 65-70 million yrs ago.
Wow, awesome prediction, given that every palentologist in the world could have told him that. Was his "prediction" based on him reading a book for children entitled My First Book Of Fossils, or was his research more extensive?
I've got a prediction of my own. I predict that T. rex has big sharp teeth. If that turns out to be true, I guess I must be some kind of genius.
Were mammals and dinosaur contemporary?
Yes, according to every paleontologist in the world.
And your point was?
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Calypsis4
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Message 56 of 416 (527108)
09-30-2009 10:22 AM
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09-30-2009 10:16 AM


Re: Living fossils expose evolution??
Then this:
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Message 57 of 416 (527110)
09-30-2009 10:26 AM
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09-30-2009 10:22 AM


Re: Living fossils expose evolution??
Then this:
If that is your argument, it needs a little work. And some content.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 58 of 416 (527113)
09-30-2009 10:30 AM
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09-30-2009 10:13 AM


Re: Living fossils expose evolution??
You said it.
And I also said:
"If you wish to give up on defending your errors from my criticism, then this admission of failure is yours and yours alone to make. It's entirely up to you."
Apparently, you feel that you just can't hack it debating with someone who knows what he's talking about. And for once, you are completely correct. You can't.
The one thing that puzzles me is why you go on arguing. If you know you've lost, what's the point?

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Calypsis4
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Message 59 of 416 (527115)
09-30-2009 10:33 AM
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09-30-2009 10:14 AM


Re: Magnolias
One last reply to 'Dr Adequate'.
The 'radar' statement was NOT a blunder. Good grief!
I thought I established this. I used 'radar' and 'sonar' as common colloquial terminology that the common man can grasp but he wants to make a big deal about it for some oddball reason.
quote:
In emitting high-pitched sounds and listening to resultant echoes, the process used in RADAR technology, bats are able to locate prey and nearby objects. This is the process known as echolocation, the ability they similarly share with dolphins and whales. Wikipedia
quote:
The bat can sense in which direction the insect is moving based on the pitch of the echo. If the insect is moving away from the bat, the returning echo will have a lower pitch than the original sound, while the echo from an insect moving toward the bat will have a higher pitch. This difference is due to the Doppler effect, which you can read about in How RADAR Works. From the science website; 'How Stuff Works'
My point has been made. This is a non-issue.

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Message 60 of 416 (527116)
09-30-2009 10:33 AM
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09-30-2009 10:16 AM


Re: Living fossils expose evolution??
Dr. Werner made a prediction before his world-wide tour examining fossils that he would gather evidence of mammals in the era of the dinosaur which supposedly existed 65-70 million yrs ago. Were mammals and dinosaur contemporary? This is what he found:
Why do you think this is relevant or helps your argument?
Also, you have been requested numerous times to post smaller images. Could you do it? These huge images do not strengthen your point and that you do not follow suggestions just makes you seem like more of an ass. I do not need my screen overwhelmed with more of your bs, when I am expecting a clear argument.
Thanks.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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