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Theodoric
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Message 28 of 182 (527548)
10-01-2009 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Calypsis4
10-01-2009 4:57 PM


Re: Facts?
The world/universe could not create itself because of the 1st law of thermodynamics. Matter cannot be created nor destroyed. We know of nothing in natural world that can create matter and no one has ever observed matter being created. Therefore its creation had to be supernatural.

Do you actually know what the first law of thermodynamics states? Can you explain how it disproves evolution? I mean much more than what you state above, because all that is misstatements with no actual explanation.


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Message 97 of 182 (527735)
10-02-2009 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Calypsis4
10-02-2009 9:59 AM


How forum works
The subject here is 'creation vs evolution'. If you don't wish to discuss the Creator then why do you come to such a venue to begin with?

This site is split between faith forums and science forums. YOu are posting in the science side, there fore it is incumbent upon you yo provide scientific evidence. Godidit is not scientific.

I think the admins should make it clear to you that faith based arguments are reserved for the faith discussions. On the science side we expect scientific explanantions..

Admins

Would any of you back me on this?


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Theodoric
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Message 101 of 182 (527741)
10-02-2009 1:45 PM
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10-02-2009 1:36 PM


Topic please!!!
Any chance of getting back to the topic and a little less preaching and proselytizing??

How about some evidence for this statement.

Einstein said that 'matter' and 'energy' were interchangeable terms.

You forgot to mention 100 yrs of scientists that said that evolution is false: Dr. Rudolph Virchow, Dr. Louis Agassiz, Dr. George McReady Price, Dr. Jean Henri Fabre, Dr. Fred Hoyle, Dr. Chandra Wickramasinghe, Dr. Henry Morris, Dr. Dean Kenyon, and more recently Dr. John Sanford, of Cornell U., one who believed in and taught evolution for 50 yrs. but tossed it out after his study of genetics.

Ok you can name drop. How about telling us who they, their field of expertise and what they actually said. I kind of funny that you feel we should just take your word and their supposed word without any background.

Evidence, please provide some evidence.

Edited by Theodoric, : spelling


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Message 108 of 182 (527781)
10-02-2009 4:14 PM
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10-02-2009 3:32 PM


Re: Topic please!!!
You just don't like to talk about Laminin. Why is that, Mr. skeptic?

You mean your argument about laminin looking like a cross was a serious argument?
Ok. So did laminin look like something else before the supposed crucifixion of this guy who supposedly existed that you call jesus? Did it change then or did your god create it knowing sometime he would have his son executed on the cross? If it always looked like this, was this pre or post that Adam guy and his woman?

In all seriousness. It takes a vivid imagination to see a cross in the laminin. As others have pointed out there are structures that look like any manner of shapes. Pentagrams and swastikas to point out two. Why are they not relevant?

I sure can. I can give you a lot more than that. But if I did as you suggested would it make any difference to those who are emotionally committed to a lie?

Nope.

So we can just throw that argument out. I'll tell you what, any argument you wont back up with at least a sliver of evidence I will just ignore. Lets see that leaves. No, no, no,. Hmm nothing with any evidence yet.


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Message 112 of 182 (527792)
10-02-2009 4:35 PM
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10-02-2009 4:20 PM


Re: Topic please!!!
I would say, "Gosh, you're catching on slowly," but alas, you're only nit picking.

Have fun posting the other forum members.

I will take this as your admission that you have no responses to the points made. If you are not willing to debate and support the points YOU presented in the op, why do you bother posting? I and numerous others have repeatedly asked you to stay on topic and to provide some sort of evidence.

Again, one more time I will ask and then I guess if you don't answer I will have may answer that you have no evidence. All you have is preaching and proselytizing.

Why is laminin so special because it might be construed as resembling a cross, but other things like potassium channels in nerve cells that look like swastikas have no relevance? Or how about DNA itself.

There are just as many (if not more) Satanic (or otherwise evil) shapes in the human body. Consider this: DNA is the molecule that contains all the information that determines who you are. Here is a simplified drawing of the detailed structure of DNA, getting rid of the helical shape and just concentrating on what makes up the backbone of the molecule:
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Do you see the blue shapes? Those are pentagrams. They represent the sugar ribose that makes up the backbone of DNA. Indeed, “ribose” is what gives DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) the “ribo” in its name. Thus, the molecule that makes the backbone of DNA and gives it part of its name is a Satanic symbol. What does that mean?

Source

DNA should be more highly regarded than laminin shouldn't it?


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Theodoric
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Message 114 of 182 (527798)
10-02-2009 4:42 PM
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10-02-2009 4:35 PM


Re: Vague vague and more vague
Living fossils destroy evolution: utterly. My opponents are not being honest about this very clear-cut issue. That is because they are all emotionally committed to a fabrication called 'evolution.'

Could you at least keep your arguments straight? On this thread we are supposed to be talking about cells, not living fossils. Please address that topic here and living fossils on the other thread.


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