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Coyote
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Message 34 of 137 (528770)
10-06-2009 10:28 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Sky-Writing
10-06-2009 10:21 PM


True science nonsense again
True science being a reproducible testable event.

False!

That's just another dishonest creationist talking point.

Try reproducing stellar formation in the laboratory. And try telling the scientists who practice it that cosmology is not a "true" science.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Message 54 of 137 (541489)
01-03-2010 9:35 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Sky-Writing
01-03-2010 9:11 PM


Re: True science nonsense again
It's really quite an embarrassment (for "Science") to have so much hard data and no solid conclusions.

As opposed to religious belief, which has no hard data and dogmatic conclusions?

Thanks, I'll take science any day.


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Message 71 of 137 (541542)
01-04-2010 11:13 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by Sky-Writing
01-04-2010 10:02 AM


How people were made
The Creation of Men and Women

When the world was finished, there were as yet no people, but the Bald Eagle was chief of the animals. He saw that the world was incomplete and decided to make some human beings. So he took some clay and modeled the figure of a man and laid him on the ground. At first he was very small but he grew rapidly until he reached normal size. But as yet he had no life; he was still asleep. Then the Bald Eagle stood and admired his work. "It is impossible," he said, "that he should be left alone; he must have a mate." So he pulled out a feather and laid it beside the sleeping man. Then he left them and went off a short distance, for he knew that a woman was being formed from the feather. But the man was still asleep and did not know what was happening. When the Bald Eagle decided that the woman was about completed, he returned, awoke the man by flapping his wings over him and flew away.

The man opened his eyes and stared at the woman. "What does this mean?" he asked. "I thought I was alone!" Then the Bald Eagle returned and said with a smile, "I see you have a mate! Have you had intercourse with her?" "No," replied he man, for he and the woman knew nothing about each other. Then the Bald Eagle called to Coyote who happened to be going by and said to him, "Do you see that woman? Try her first!" Coyote was quite willing and complied, but immediately afterwards lay down and died. The Bald Eagle went away and left Coyote dead, but presently returned and revived him. "How did it work?" said the Bald Eagle. "Pretty well, but it nearly kills a man!" replied Coyote. "Will you try it again?" said the Bald Eagle. Coyote agreed, and tried again, and this time survived. Then the Bald Eagle turned to the man and said, "She is all right now; you and she are to live together.

California Indian creation story

Now, Sky, you might not accept this as accurate but if not, can you provide empirical evidence that it is not accurate and that any other creation story is more accurate?


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Message 74 of 137 (541553)
01-04-2010 12:41 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Sky-Writing
01-04-2010 12:22 PM


Re: True nonsense again
Man is the only form of life in the entire Cosmos.

And you know this, how?

And science has spent Billions trying to prove that fact wrong.
What would be the SCIENTIFIC value of finding another
form of life, not from this planet?

No known benefit at all.

Knowledge!

(Are you for real, or are you a Poe?)


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Message 93 of 137 (541645)
01-04-2010 9:59 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by Sky-Writing
01-04-2010 7:59 PM


Before the fall?
I read. The Bible says there was no death before the fall.
I think that qualifies.

What about all of those billions of years of fossils? Dead critters, all.

And all nicely ordered, with extinctions and evolutions and all the rest?

And how about the T. rex teeth? Perfectly adapted to browsing and grazing? Check out the teeth on mammoths and mastodons for a comparison--known to be browsers and grazers--and get back to us with your evidence on this one.

Believe what you want, but don't try to claim it is science, or supported by science, unless that is what the scientific evidence shows.


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Message 97 of 137 (541656)
01-04-2010 11:33 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by Sky-Writing
01-04-2010 11:08 PM


Re: Before the fall?
Everything degrades down. Nothing
evolves up to more a more complex system.

Sorry, that would be false.

And don't claim that science shows this; it just demonstrates your flawed understanding of science.

If you are relying on the 2nd law of thermodynamics, that 1) isn't what it says, and 2) doesn't apply to an open system. (The sun makes the earth an open system.)

If you are relying on biology and paleontology, it is no better for you. The trend from, say 3.5 billion years ago, does include increasing complexity.

But you never addressed T. rex and those teeth, an issue from my previous post. If there was no death before the mythical fall, what are they doing with those highly specialized teeth?


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