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Message 93 of 222 (528582)
10-06-2009 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by Calypsis4
10-06-2009 10:57 AM


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Evolutionists don't have a clue.
Well, since evolutionists study biology, I wouldn't necessarily expect them to have a clue, anymore than I'd expect an astronomer to be able to explain the significance of the discovery of how chromosomes are protected by telomeres and the enzyme telomerase, or than I'd expect a blinkered opponent of science to understand any of the answers to the questions he just posed.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 102 of 222 (528597)
10-06-2009 2:04 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by Calypsis4
10-06-2009 1:29 PM


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Hmm, so you will believe scientists who give an evolutionary interpretation to things even over matters that they DON'T KNOW, but you won't believe what we DO KNOW: the witness of those scientists who observed phenomena of active volcanism on the moon, a la Wm. Herschel, etc.
Boy, howdy, that's really scientific!
No, but I will believe the scientific community when virtually every member of that community comes to a consensus conclusion about something. That strikes me as being considerably more scientific than going along with the lunatic fringe simply because they spout nonsense than happens to agree with nonsense from ancient writings of various shepherds, or cherry picking quotes out of context from people who agree with the scientific consensus and pretending that those quotes support my beliefs.
The fact that you find the latter approach more scientific than the former says a great deal more about your idea of what constitutes science than it says about science itself.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 112 of 222 (528612)
10-06-2009 2:24 PM
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10-06-2009 2:10 PM


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And if the 'scientific community' is wrong(?) a la Piltdown, Haeckel's ridiculous drawings, Nebraska man, Coelacanth, and most lately Archeoraptor?
The scientific community wasn't wrong about those things. That of course, doesn't mean that the scientific community is never wrong. It's a human process. But it's self correcting. All you have to do to correct the scientific community when it's wrong is present evidence. Not out of context quotes, not long ago discredited arguments, and certainly not religion.
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Understand that evolutionists do not comprise the entire scientific community. Dean Kenyon, Michael Behe, Gary Parker, Steven Austin, John Morris, John Sanford, and even non-Christians Fred Hoyle, and Chandra Wickramasinghe & the agnostic David Berlinski do not believe in evolution. I could name a couple thousand more I have listed in my files.
If you'd bothered to read what I wrote, I specifically referred to virtually every member of the scientific community. I specifically didn't say every member because I was fully aware you'd trot out the usual list of cdesign proponentists such as Behe, creotards like John Morris, and other sundry minority opinions. I'd sure you could find as many as one or two thousand. I can name over 1,100 just named Steve that say your people are wrong. If we suppose that Steve represents say 1% of all names, that means for every one person on your list, there are 100 who disagree with them. That's what I was talking about when I said virtually every member of the scientific community.
Thus, my original point stands.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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