Spotting Beretta's "designer" {Now only 1 summation message per member}

But isn't having some knowledge of the designer integral to identifying and understanding the designs? Take your example of a painting. Obviously we can look at it and agree that it's designed, maybe even discuss its aesthetic qualities, but that won't advance our understanding of it. To do that you would need to know something of the designer/artist. Why use that style or palette ? Why choose that subject matter? How does this compare to other artists? Etc. From all this, even without a name, we can get some idea who the artist was.Similarly in nature, if you've identified something that is designed, do you simply take a moment to appreciate the design and move on, or do you make some effort to understand the design? If the latter, how do you do this without some idea of the designer? Can you answer questions like, why do mammals have three different ways to reproduce? Or why do octopi have better 'designed' eyes than humans? Or does the extinct organisms found in the fossil record represent failed designs or a work in progress? And how do we know there is even one designer, since a painting 'designed' by Van Gogh and one 'designed' by rembrandt can be recognised as created by two different people?So, of the various designs you see in nature (but you have so far failed to cite, as others have noted on this thread) what does this tell us about your designer?

But once you've identified the design what can be done to understand the design without knowing who the designer was? When asked a simple question about the different methods of reproduction your only reply was 'Design?' , so what more can we infer about why those specific designs were chosen?
As for who the designer(s) is you must have some ideas, since you accept that things are 'designed'. However, you admit that the designer(s) is basically incomprehensible. Can you even guess if they are supernatural in origin or simply very advanced aliens?This is why the hypothesis of a designer or designers is completely useless to science, since there is no possibility to further our understanding of the universe, since as you admit, we can't comprehend the designer, so we can't understand their design choices. In other words there is no how, and we can't ask why. Unless there is some other procedure we can follow. Any suggestions?