Noah was a healthy cell, so to speak...but I will argue that God knew that the cure was better than the disease.
You may make that claim but the fact is that the God character did not agree with you, that the God character went on to say it was a mistake and that he would not do it again, that Noah went and set up a vineyard and that Noah's descendants behaved no differently than all the folk the God character murdered. No in the story is there ever any evidence of any wrong doing by any of the people, animals, plants and other critters killed, only that the God character despaired of creating them.
You guys may say that humans cower in fear over Gods judgments...and I've no reason to disagree.
Not really Phat, no one but the crazies say that. Honestly all the evidence is that there is nothing to fear from Gods judgement.
We have to respect the authority, however. One cannot simply stand up and brazenly laugh in His face.
Why do we have to respect authority?
Why can't we stand up and brazenly laugh in His face?
I'm just contrasting me-centered spirituality with Jesus...who denied himself and never thought how he could make a better Jesus.
But that is NOT what the Bible stories said. The stories show Jesus first being upset about what his mother tells him to do and also shows Jesus using the resources of the Communion for his own personal pleasure and justifying it by claiming he wouldn't always be there. The first shows he did have to think about making a better Jesus and the latter shows a self-centered Jesus.
The point is that the Bible shows Jesus simply as human while living, not some perfect creature.
So how come science gets to have a paradigm shift while faith never gets that option?
I don't understand your question. Why doesn't Faith have this option? What's stopping Faith from having a paradigm shift?
Actually the whole history of faiths and religion are simply a series of paradigm shift.
Likely first were the animist religions, where nature and events were deities. There was the Sun and the Moon and Thunder and Lightning and Storms and the Trees and the Beasts.
The next paradigm shift was likely the Middle Eastern creation of the God of a given locale, one that was tied to a particular city or state. That paradigm even shows up in some of the Old Testament tales where the Hebrew God is shown as limited to the land the Hebrews occupied.
Next was likely the creation of the regional gods, ones that had limited power but over a whole area, not just some tiny area like a city or even a state like Judah or Israel (those last two often had an entirely different god than the other). That paradigm may have first been seen in the Vedic period in what is now India and later in Hinduism.
The next major paradigm, likely about 600 to 800 years before Jesus was created, was probably the Buddhist tradition where God becomes unknowable and all the earlier and later paradigms and gods that get created are subsumed.
About the same time another paradigm shift was happening to the north in China which the creation of religions based on the philosophy of one individual; Taoism and Confucianism. The sole purpose was changed from what the God wanted to what makes societies successful. They were likely the earliest attempts at a secular society based on a religion or philosophy.
When we look at any specific religion waswe also see paradigm shift after paradigm shift. The early Hebrew god is very humanist, personable, tied to one particular area or people, very limited yet powerful but only one god among many. Gradually that evolved to being the "One True God™" with all the others considered as false gods.
With the creation of Jesus there was yet another paradigm shift although it was still Judaism. The god created was boundless and not confined to one area or people. The later Islamic paradigm shift is almost identical except for its attribution of source.
But wait, there's more because almost all of the earlier paradigm shifts have also splintered creating additional paradigms; Sunni or Shia; Protestant, Roman Catholic, Orthodox; Christian or "True Christian™".
well I suppose you could argue that the Creator does not *have* to be perfect, but the concept then becomes a creative imagination of your own mind....
But the Bible stories show an imperfect creator.
We like our deities to be larger than life. Perfection is, after all, a worthy goal and calling.
That is a relatively modern concept and so Christianity created a perfect god. But it certainly was neither the concept of those who wrote the Bible stories or the other religions over time described gods that were far from perfect.
Re: a god made the folking deal: your belief in exchange for a ransom paid to himself
According to the Bible God is not all powerful and existing outside of time and space.
Once again you are simply demonstrating that you have not honestly read the Bible or honestly believe what is written in the Bible. And we have had this conversation before and you seem to prefer willful ignorance to honesty.