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Author Topic:   What Benefits Are Only Available Through God?
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Message 194 of 438 (853314)
05-25-2019 8:58 PM
Reply to: Message 193 by Phat
05-25-2019 4:08 PM


Re: a god made the folking deal: your belief in exchange for a ransom paid to himself
Did it ever occur to you that there may be a reason that there is no evidence that God Himself allowed happening for precisely the reason of testing the human heart?

Not when those who, through no fault of their own, fail the test and suffer an eternity of torture at the hands of the proctor.


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AZPaul3
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Message 196 of 438 (853316)
05-25-2019 11:44 PM
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05-25-2019 10:03 PM


Re: a god made the folking deal: your belief in exchange for a ransom paid to himself
We have no evidence that they suffer for eternity.

quote:
There you go, writing the laws of evidence as if you define reality yourself.
-Thug

The God I worship is not petty and vindicative...He has no need to enforce the rules He supposedly made...He is quite able to wipe them off the books.

Yet she cannot provide anything less evil than a bloodthirsty evolution in a violent universe for her favorite monkey? Not much use as a god is she.


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AZPaul3
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Message 205 of 438 (853337)
05-26-2019 2:36 PM
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05-26-2019 12:41 PM


Re: As An Aside...
The fact that there is no evidence does not negate the possibility.

By the same math using the same weights the same can be said of any human conjuring. Flying Spaghetti Monster, Invisible Pink Unicorn (MTABTOIHF)*, Great Green Arkleseizure, Aphrodite, Cthulhu.

Since this universe doesn't seem to show these human conjectures as having any reality we can assign the same possibility and legitimacy to each. Vanishingly small so as to be non-existent. And with no discernible, demonstrable, effect or attributes from these entities on anything in our universe we can assign a utility of zero. They are worthless to us.

"Possibility" only requires a wishful glance and means nothing. Evidence, even the lack thereof, requires fact and is everything.

* May There Always Be Tasty Oats In Her Feedbag

Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.


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Message 212 of 438 (853345)
05-26-2019 3:20 PM
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05-26-2019 3:07 PM


Re: As An Aside...
And yet I was led to believe.

Well, if you ever change your mind we have plenty of room at our table for you, Thug. And we won't be throwing m&ms at you for crossing yourself left-to-right instead of right-to-left. We'll find other reasons to throw m&ms at you.


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Message 219 of 438 (853356)
05-26-2019 4:29 PM
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05-26-2019 3:41 PM


Re: a god made the folking deal: your belief in exchange for a ransom paid to himself
Yet ringo never seems to adopt an argument whereby he(you) suggest the possibility of God. Now, why is that?

Maybe because a "possibility" of something like a god is of no consequence. Only when there is demonstrable evidence of her workings, workings that can only be accomplished by and attributed to the god, is there sufficient reason to consider the matter.


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Message 228 of 438 (853377)
05-27-2019 12:37 AM
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05-26-2019 10:31 PM


Re: a god made the folking deal: your belief in exchange for a ransom paid to himself
Is a leprechaun all knowing, all powerful and existing outside of time and space?

Of course. Have you not been paying attention?

And yes, its green and blue with some red on the hems.


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Message 270 of 438 (853477)
05-27-2019 8:39 PM


Well, thank you. Both of you.

I look forward to the next round.


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Message 274 of 438 (853488)
05-27-2019 10:21 PM
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05-27-2019 10:15 PM


Re: All praise Her Noodliness
you think that's an intelligent remark? It's unbelievably stoopid and as so many such comments are here, time-wasting.

She sure told you! So there!


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Message 423 of 438 (859796)
08-03-2019 5:52 AM
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08-03-2019 2:26 AM


Re: Facts vs. Possibilities
So is Boyd lying?

A self-serving anecdote? I wouldn't put it past him.

But he is a religionist and will see what he wants to see regardless of the reality.

quote:
I had believed in Satan and demons since my conversion fourteen years earlier ...

So he was already predisposed to irrational thinking. Typical.

I note that in this writeup there is no further information on the girl. What was her diagnosis?


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