What Benefits Are Only Available Through God?

sounds as if you too are having a meltdown. For the record, I am more of a moderate than I am right wing. And I hardly think of myself as a fascist. You just get your panties in a bunch at the very idea of any God having any veto power over your precious free will. Quid pro Quo, Dr. Lector?

The dark side? How could I have become the very thing I was opposed to?We need to go fishing and forget all of this religious philosophy for a while. And As I said, I need to lay off the stimulants and get more exercise. Dark Side, Schmark Side

If God exists, God exists regardless of what you believe. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Guilty as charged, except that I am a moderate entitled white Christian. Besides, the God whom I am describing is far bigger than this mere dust speck of a planet and all of our history of political and ideological oppression by white people over people of color.And I'm gonna preach a bit, so if you don't believe in freedom of speech, sue me.Or don't listen. I never listen to that demon deceived Richard Carrier either. But all anger aside, I still respect you, Theodoric. You are unafraid, to be honest, and you wear your balls on your sleeve. keep being critical of me...I need humility.

There you go, writing the laws of evidence as if you define reality yourself. Did it ever occur to you that there may be a reason that there is no evidence that God Himself allowed happening for precisely the reason of testing the human heart?

We have no evidence that they suffer for eternity. They could well be pardoned for all we know. The God I worship is not petty and vindicative...He has no need to enforce the rules He supposedly made...He is quite able to wipe them off the books.

First of all, "She" owes you nothing. Not squat. While you may thus claim that "she' is of little use, you can, of course, claim that she is a figment of your imagination, to begin with, and thus have a handy copout. If you honestly conclude that there is no GOD, God, or god (jars favorite terminology) the fact remains that GOD may still exist and likely differs from anything that you, I, or Stan Lee can imagine. The Biblical authors seem to suggest that they have the Deity defined, but critics will argue that this idea is far from probable. You are of course free to believe as you like, but might I suggest that if you are wrong, you will be faced with the same idea that I am faced with(A God who exists and who is unlike anything that I ever would or could have imagined) at which point we both are basically at the Deities mercy. You may argue that such a scenario is extremely unlikely while I may argue that it is within a reasonable realm of probability and that I, in fact, will believe. The basic fact is that humanity has never actually traveled beyond this dust speck on which we live and have postulated the truths of a vast universe based only on our maths and our data.

Welcome back! Yes, I realize this. There is no way to prove that GOD exists.I am attempting to explain the construct to AZPaul3. Remember the construct that you taught me?How did you word it? Something along the lines of IF GOD exists, GOD exists regardless of anyones belief that GOD does not exist....

The fact that there is no evidence does not negate the possibility.

And yet I was led to believe. It was not from cultural brainwashing, though that admittedly softened the beach. It was from God Himself. Granted I cannot prove this...

Ask the question of why it is important to me that you entertain the possibility? We can go down that rabbit trail if you want.

And yet they don't. Why is God as I understand Him any different?

What possible evidence could there be, apart from the believers themselves? Assuming that we have a spark in us that others lack. Of course, critics will label it as kool-aid. So tell me where evidence should be found.Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.

Quora is a valuable website that helps me to ask better questions. As an example, note the following exchange:My Initial Question: Does God exist?Response:Many believe the question is unanswerable (yet many others answer it quite easily. In fact, anyone except agnostics).
There is little agreement on what God is.
There is no proof to clearly indicate that many of the definitions of God do or do not exist.
All known indications that there is a God (or gods, for that matter) come from unverifiable sources, such as the Bible, word-of-mouth traditions, or fallible humans.
The notion of the term 'existence' is hardly explained. The question seems too vague to answer.
Many believe that this answer requires a leap of faith
Because God is ultimately beyond human comprehension no definition will serve, thus it is hard for people to agree on the nature of God.
Proof would reduce God to a thing, an element of many like stars, planets or people. Thus the search for "scientific" evidence of God is quixotic at best.
Note: The above two points imply the rationality of not using rationality to think about big matters (including God). This leaves open the question: What is to replace that rationality? Since we ultimately need to use sth. Or don't we?
The only indication of God's existence that matters [for some people] is the insight, the intuition that God does indeed exist. This insight [presumably] opens a world of possibilities foreclosed to the mind of each individual human.
The Bible (The 'the' seems misleading) has long ceased to be word-of-mouth. It is the oldest continually maintained record of "history" in Western Culture. It is not a traditional history in 20th-century terms, but its deliberate inclusion of embarrassing and damning criticism of its own people serves as a "witness against interest" which is taken as a high standard in testimony.

We disagree. I say He is. You say he isn't. Are you trying to convince me that He isn't? Because honestly, I am attempting to show you the possibility that He is.Should I simply give up on this argument? After all, nobody even considers believing in something that they are unconvinced has any value. I find no value in Leprechauns nor in Big Foot. I DO find value in ringo. Yet ringo never seems to adopt an argument whereby he(you) suggest the possibility of God. Now, why is that?